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  1. #3191
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    Allow Escort for Hire to be completed in a group, not singular players. If 3 players group up, 3 players get clear at the end for talking to her. Currently if 3 players want to do it, 3 players have to do it in turn.
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  2. #3192
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    We are approaching the 3 year anniversary of Sortie, and most long-time FFXI players are in various stages of burnout on this content. A Sortie hour, even when Aminon is included, is perhaps 20 minutes of action and 40 minutes of running through purple hallways.

    In addition to repetitiveness and tedium, another particular focal point of frustration is the current system for obtaining +2 JSE earrings. ??? Earrings +2 are incredibly rare to begin with, and typically for a job for which one does not seek them, and even if they are for the desired job, typically have the lowest possible stats.

    I have no dispute with the obvious need of a subscription service to maintain long-term interest in the service to sustain subscriptions, but therein lies the flaw of Sortie: by burning out players, almost as if designed for this purpose, it does not serve the goal of sustaining long-term player interest in FFXI.

    I suggest the following adjustments to revitalize Sortie:
    • If a character enters Sortie after not entering for at least 40 hours, all Gallimaufry rewards are doubled.
    • Basement bosses always drop an Old Case +1.
    • Aminon hard mode always drops an Old Case +2.
    • After defeating a ground floor boss, its exit and entry gadgets can be used to teleport to the entry Diaphanous Gadget of any other ground floor boss that the character has defeated during a previous Sortie and has not yet defeated during the current Sortie.
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  3. #3193
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    These kinds of text commands would be a great quality of life improvement even if they were not accessible from an entire town zone, but only within a certain radius of the corresponding NPC. It is tedious to have to navigate through clumsy menus that are hard-limited to three rows of options and have noticeable lag, even when Window Effects are turned off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidstorm View Post
    instead of adding npc's to those locations they could also add text commands to access them anywhere in town zones.
    /moghouse /mog
    /survivalguide /sg
    /waypoint /wp
    /unitynm /unm ??? unity chat exists
    /voidwatch /vw
    /abbyssea /aby
    /auctionhouse /ah
    ...equipment storage moogle requires trading the slip first; would actually need an NPC for that.

    add a gobbiebox to more town zones so people run to that, and add an oseem to each town zone so we don't all have to congregate in norg every day.
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  4. #3194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eth View Post
    We are approaching the 3 year anniversary of Sortie, and most long-time FFXI players are in various stages of burnout on this content.
    Good thing they introduced "new" content recently. maybe people burning out on sortie should do that instead.

    Sure, the +4 upgrades may not be that exciting by themselves, but remember we still have more coming, and it would be wise to be prepared for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Good thing they introduced "new" content recently. maybe people burning out on sortie should do that instead.

    Sure, the +4 upgrades may not be that exciting by themselves, but remember we still have more coming, and it would be wise to be prepared for it.
    But the new content doesn't get you the currency you need to upgrade reforged empyrean armor, which is basically great for all jobs unlike artifact and relic which ranges from situationally useful to a waste of an inventory space. Not to mention the prime weapons. People weren't burning out on Sortie because it was the newest content, they were (and are) burning out on it because it's the only source for a currency which is needed in obscene quantities to make very desirable equipment.

    Whereas the new content gets you like +5 to each stat on a piece of armor that, at best, you were only ever putting on for lockstyle or for the secondary bonuses that don't change at all.

    Limbus is just another thing to do between Sortie runs, like job point grinding.
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    But the new content doesn't get you the currency you need to upgrade reforged empyrean armor,
    The main point is to bring the Relic and Artifact sets up to comparability in core stats with the empyrean armors (such that you'll be more easily able to pick and choose based on the special effects and not feel like you have to weaken yourself to make use of an otherwise useful bonus), and we already know there's a second upgrade on the way- hence why I suggested that people should be putting more time into it to be ready for when the next Limbus update hits. Completing Appolyon and Temenos runs grants stacking permanent buffs, so doing runs now means you'll be in better shape for later updates.

    Erroneuously naming certain armors +5 basically all but says there will be a +5; and aside from this, Proto Ultima and Omega are still inaccessible- so we know something's coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The main point is to bring the Relic and Artifact sets up to comparability in core stats with the empyrean armors (such that you'll be more easily able to pick and choose based on the special effects and not feel like you have to weaken yourself to make use of an otherwise useful bonus), and we already know there's a second upgrade on the way- hence why I suggested that people should be putting more time into it to be ready for when the next Limbus update hits. Completing Appolyon and Temenos runs grants stacking permanent buffs, so doing runs now means you'll be in better shape for later updates.

    Erroneuously naming certain armors +5 basically all but says there will be a +5; and aside from this, Proto Ultima and Omega are still inaccessible- so we know something's coming.
    The main point is Limbus does not supercede Sortie. It doesn't matter what you're getting from whatever future update of Limbus, you still have to grind forever in Sortie to make empyrean +3 and prime weapons. This is what causes the burnout, daily entry means you lose a day's worth of progress if you don't go in and the rewards are too important and their cost too high to make that palatable. It feels mandatory, and it isn't enjoyable after the first few times through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenion View Post
    The main point is Limbus does not supercede Sortie. It doesn't matter what you're getting from whatever future update of Limbus, you still have to grind forever in Sortie to make empyrean +3 and prime weapons. This is what causes the burnout, daily entry means you lose a day's worth of progress if you don't go in and the rewards are too important and their cost too high to make that palatable. It feels mandatory, and it isn't enjoyable after the first few times through it.
    I mean... you don't have to... ittl just take longer...

    That's the point, take a break from sortie and do limbus... or something else, but I'd suggest limubs.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-19-2025 at 12:40 PM.

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    For Ballista, it's so annoying and complicated to sign up.

    Just make it so you talk to the NPC in the zone where the ballista is happening and they give you the license (if they don't already have it) and you can do it, it's so laughably complex barely anyone does it.

    Also don't have set times, just make it start once there are enough players signed up to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radar View Post
    For Ballista, it's so annoying and complicated to sign up.

    Just make it so you talk to the NPC in the zone where the ballista is happening and they give you the license (if they don't already have it) and you can do it, it's so laughably complex barely anyone does it.

    Also don't have set times, just make it start once there are enough players signed up to do it.
    I remember back in the day when I tried to convince friends to give it a go probably more than half of them just couldn't be arsed to do the license quest.|

    Now, the diorama does not ask that of anyone other than the host, so after a while most ballista ended up taking place there- but you also can't earn any titles or take your friends' gil .

    I have a laundry list of things that need to happen to Ballista such that at least a few people might be incentivized to mess around with it (or at least spend their Generic Currency Of Genericness) which I will hopefully get around to posting here soon.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-20-2025 at 12:12 PM.

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