The Aegist

[zataz]

Well this answer tracks with your usual pattern. You have to keep asking "why" because you don't actually listen.

Trust me, I don't think anyone dissuade you from leaving your steamy opinion on the floor whenever and wherever you want. Don't be such a contrarian, Draylo, lol.

Read what he said to me lol in the post above lol but you are right no one cares if they voice there thoughts. But they act like the look of the shield(a unfinished item) is important and tell me glowing it doesn't matter I mean I glowed it for the look and I respect how they feel but isn't the "glow" part of the look?

[zataz]

This is such a stupid take. YOU get over it. Why do you have to fight people leaving opinions on an official forum? To me it looks like an issue you need to get over, not them. You are so oversensitive you are coming in here trying to stop anyone from leaving their own opinion. Looks to me like you are the one being oversensitive. Time does not mean the only factor, otherwise there are TONs of items these days that could simply be thrown into login points. Aeonics take little to no time either, AFK or purchase beads > kill easy NMs. So according to you its ok to put them onto login points. To be damned with the history of the item, the fact its in the lore, and so on.



Look, nobody gives a shit about your afterlgow. I had over two of them before your character was probably even created. Its not a consideration in the discussion and the only reason you're bringing it up is to try to gloat in a veiled way, pathetic in 2023 lol. We are all fighting over "nothing" on this board, its a 20 year old game that the very own company that runs it doesn't care about. Anything we discuss will be over "nothing" because barely anyone even knows this game is still online thanks to SE and their wonderful marketing.



You are entitled to your opinion, but for me you are wrong. They are essentially the exact same model with a slight shift in the face. The stats on the item aren't what my opinion is based on and I have explained that various times. I only mentioned the stats to explain to you why its still iconic and useful in todays game. For me, it is not simply about someone else pretending to have the item. Its about cheapening the image of the shield given that its in lore and iconic. You don't have to agree with my opinion but you aren't going to change it or minimize it by telling me I'm wrong.

I honestly feel like people are being purposely obtuse to devalue others opinions or forcefully change them. If only that logic worked in real life! You can take the exact same product and draw a smiley face on it and it would be ok! No copyrights need apply, its so a different item. Obviouisly if people saw problems with that, even though its not EXACTLY the same but looks similar, why wouldn't they have problems here? The same reasons, it devalues the original in various ways.

Lol I'll take you up on that I started in 2004 when did you start?

[zataz]

This is really stupid.

Can you not?

You are devaluing one of the most iconic REMA people spent hundreds to thousands of hours making for a joke login item, it looks identical to an Aegis unless you're really close to it. So level 1 mules will effectively have a prestige REMA now.

At least change the color?

You are ruining the prestige of the item

inb4 it's funny tho, from people who don't understand the greater issues and how an item that gives a laugh for a few minutes now will be in the game forever after

Ok look be real with me. think about what I'm asking and give me how you honestly see it.
I know you all are too lazy to finish said item. ok
Question aegis power is its ability to break the mdt cap. That's were its value lies. How it looks honestly doesn't matter it could look like a trash can lid and if it does what it does it would still be used. My question is in combat how does its looks affect its combat ability?
I'm listen explain it to me pls. Tell me how it loses shield bash or its mdt ability cause the other shield looks like it...
I'll be waiting with anticipation and bated breath for your answer.

[Sirmarki]

cause the other shield looks like it...

The face on the shield is different, so it's not entirely a clone.

[Pixela]

I'm listen explain it to me pls.

Firstly it's not a personal argument, I don't play Paladin. I usually make arguments I think are in the best interests of the game and why people play it (because I want it to continue as long as possible)

Lets say there was a Marathon race and everyone trained for months to participate, then people were awarded $ and obtained a gold, silver and bronze medal for 1-3 winning slots.

Then everyone got a participation gold medal that looked almost identical to the winning gold medal.

Do you think that would undermine the win in the eyes of the gold, silver and bronze medal winners as everyone else has the gold medals around their necks? do you think it might mean less participants next year?

If you aren't sure, why risk it at all?

It's a totally worthless login item that might hurt the game, so either why do it at all or change it to look less like aegis with color swaps to rectify the potential issues.

[Sp1cyryan]

Read what he said to me lol in the post above lol but you are right no one cares if they voice there thoughts. But they act like the look of the shield(a unfinished item) is important and tell me glowing it doesn't matter I mean I glowed it for the look and I respect how they feel but isn't the "glow" part of the look?

Too emotionally invested to let any random thing encroach on their random lines in the sand on a video game.

Lol I'll take you up on that I started in 2004 when did you start?

Go ahead, and ask him why they had a second afterglow of the same weapon. Don't worry he won't be fully honest. As has been demonstrated on multiple occasions over various subjects, and not just this one.

Just wow at the"I had two After Glows before your character was even made."
Okay, Boomer Draylo.

[Immortal]

You know it's funny. how you think wearing and using a unfinished item = better then the guy who cares enouph to finish it. also saying the fact I took my aegis and my much rarer ochain isn't impressive... your kinda knocking your own stance on this. Please think about it before you reply arguing the way you are makes no sense and you can't win. a unfinished item can't be better then a finished one in trying to be nice here. (And ya arch names lords a easy one hit so no reason not to finish anymore)

Gloating again, nobody cares about your afterglows. My opinion had nothing to do with the rarity of the item, I repeated myself enough so go read.

[Immortal]

Too emotionally invested to let any random thing encroach on their random lines in the sand on a video game.



Go ahead, and ask him why they had a second afterglow of the same weapon. Don't worry he won't be fully honest. As has been demonstrated on multiple occasions over various subjects, and not just this one.

Just wow at the"I had two After Glows before your character was even made."
Okay, Boomer Draylo.

Once again you have no idea what you are talking about, so embarrassing. Go ahead and tell him your rumors. You are acting like you have some card up your sleeve here. I assure you, you have nothing. This is the second time you 've brought it up, so go ahead and get it off your chest so you can feel better.

[Immortal]

Read what he said to me lol in the post above lol but you are right no one cares if they voice there thoughts. But they act like the look of the shield(a unfinished item) is important and tell me glowing it doesn't matter I mean I glowed it for the look and I respect how they feel but isn't the "glow" part of the look?

You are acting like they are different items. One has a glow and one doesn't but they are the same model for the shield, it has literally 0 relevance in the current discussion. You are trying to say you are the authority on if its ok to use the shield model or not for the login point item simply because you afterglowed yours and everyone else who didn't doesn't have a right to an opinion.

Its just a veiled manner of gloating that you afterglowed, and its not impressive in 2023 so its really cringe actually. I had one of the first afterglows ever made in FFXI, and they essentially destroyed and erased my achievement when they updated REMA, I voiced my opinion too then. But because all the dummies never had an afterglow or a chance to make it, they were perfectly fine with giving everyone and their grandma an afterglow because I was in the minority.

[Immortal]

The face on the shield is different, so it's not entirely a clone.

If only that worked in RL with art, we could copy something exactly and draw a smiley face on it. That shouldn't devalue the original or cause anyone to be upset right