Do something about the AH and lower level gear????

[RAIST]

I really think SE should make an NPC in each of the dedicated areas to sell gear around that level.

For example:
Nations 1-30?
Selbina/Mhaura 10-20
Jeuno 20-50
Norg/Rabao etc 50-60.
and so on

Make them affordable, but reduce the sellable price so people cant exploit.

I find it very difficult to get gear as a new player.

These options are already present...just need to take the time to find them.

Starter nations have all manner of gear available from levels 1-55 from NPC's, some of which can be upgraded easily by a crafter (yourself or friend) to make them a higher level piece (for example, level 7 leather gear upgrades to level 15, or level 30, etc, and level 10 CP upgrades to 15, level 20 upgrades to level 25, etc.). You also can still get some decent gear off mobs (as mentioned earlier), some of which is also upgradable via crafting.

The problem isn't the lack of availability, it is the lack of research and exploration on the players. In case you are unable to figure it out, here's some links to get you started:

Bastok CP gear:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ba...t_Points_Items

A few Bastok Merchants:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Zemedars
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Numa
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Zhikkom

That's just one NPC from each of Bastok's zones--each of those stores has more than one NPC, each with a different list of items. Each city (even Jueno and the outliying areas of Mhaura, Selbina, Khazaam, Tavnazia, etc.) havfe vendors selling gear and consumable items/crafting materials.

The AH's will be merging soon, so the gear you aren't seeing in your starter city that may be available in other AH's will soon become available to you via the unified AH. Some may find they can make a spot of gil again listing NPC gears available only in their nation and listing it on the AH (some still do this with the level 7 gear, or upgrade it to something like lizard gear and AH it).

Couple all that with the fact that you level twice as fast now outside of abyssea due to the recent XP/FoV tweaks--you don't need to upgrade your gear constantly now. You can easily make a set of gear last 7 levels (or more now, depending on the job/gear). Once you hit @level 60-69 gear (which is still available on the AH), you can pretty much wear most of that (maybe mixed in with some AF) until you hit 78 for the "free" Abyssea gears.

[Greatguardian]

Make it profitable for crafters to craft.

If you don't want to pay more money than what is obviously not attracting sales on AH, don't complain!

^ This a thousand times over.

I can craft plenty of low level gear. I don't do it though. Why? Because it's a waste of my time to go hunting for materials and spend 5k to make an armor piece, to put on the AH with a 500g fee (taking up one of my AH slots), when people are just going to complain to high hell if I charge any more than 2k.

RMT are dead. Because of this, the only source for basic materials is other players. Because other players don't go around and harvest nearly as much as RMT did, the supply for these basic materials went down and the prices went up. However, when crafters tried to raise the price of armor to coincide with the price of materials, people flipped shit.

The solution to this is twofold:

1) More low level players need to supply the AH with crafting materials if you expect crafters to make low level gear. We are not going to go out and spend 2 hours mining in Zeruhn just to make gear that sells for 5k.

2) Players need to be willing to pay reasonable prices for armor. I promise, crafters are not trying to jack prices up to rip you off and make 500% profits (at least, most aren't). The majority of price increases on gear come from price increases in materials. It is absolutely not worth my time to craft gear when I am taking a 50% loss by doing so; especially when I can make plenty of gil doing other things instead.

If people are not willing to both supply crafters with materials and to pay for both the materials and the crafter's time (which does include opportunity cost, we could be doing other things if we want gil), then sales will not happen.

[RAIST]

^ This a thousand times over.

I can craft plenty of low level gear. I don't do it though. Why? Because it's a waste of my time to go hunting for materials and spend 5k to make an armor piece, to put on the AH with a 500g fee (taking up one of my AH slots), when people are just going to complain to high hell if I charge any more than 2k.

RMT are dead. Because of this, the only source for basic materials is other players. Because other players don't go around and harvest nearly as much as RMT did, the supply for these basic materials went down and the prices went up. However, when crafters tried to raise the price of armor to coincide with the price of materials, people flipped shit.

The solution to this is twofold:

1) More low level players need to supply the AH with crafting materials if you expect crafters to make low level gear. We are not going to go out and spend 2 hours mining in Zeruhn just to make gear that sells for 5k.

2) Players need to be willing to pay reasonable prices for armor. I promise, crafters are not trying to jack prices up to rip you off and make 500% profits (at least, most aren't). The majority of price increases on gear come from price increases in materials. It is absolutely not worth my time to craft gear when I am taking a 50% loss by doing so; especially when I can make plenty of gil doing other things instead.

If people are not willing to both supply crafters with materials and to pay for both the materials and the crafter's time (which does include opportunity cost, we could be doing other things if we want gil), then sales will not happen.

or they could... idk.. take the initiative and directly provide the materials they get off mobs to the crafters in the LS. We are constantly seeing people in the shell ask if anyone has WW leveled to make shihei. They make/provide the ink/parchment/crystals. The usual fee is one stack of the results to use/AH.

I also leveled cooking/synergy. The BST in shell continually send me mats to make their pets. Takes me a few minutes to make them a stack (two synths tops). Ask for help sometime, you might be surprised...

[Kazen]

Pretty much what GG said, if you want people to put gear on AH then you need to provide mats to either the crafters themselves or on the AH. I have enough money in this stage of the game that I don't need gil, however, I will still craft so my money doesn't decline from the purchase of consumables. Although this presents a problem in itself, seeing as I don't need money I refuse to farm materials so I won't craft stuff unless the items I need to do the craft are on AH. I also won't craft low level gear unless I can make a profit that I feel is worthwhile.

[viion]

These options are already present...just need to take the time to find them.

Starter nations have all manner of gear available from levels 1-55 from NPC's, some of which can be upgraded easily by a crafter (yourself or friend) to make them a higher level piece (for example, level 7 leather gear upgrades to level 15, or level 30, etc, and level 10 CP upgrades to 15, level 20 upgrades to level 25, etc.). You also can still get some decent gear off mobs (as mentioned earlier), some of which is also upgradable via crafting.

The problem isn't the lack of availability, it is the lack of research and exploration on the players. In case you are unable to figure it out, here's some links to get you started:

Bastok CP gear:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ba...t_Points_Items

A few Bastok Merchants:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Zemedars
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Numa
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Zhikkom

That's just one NPC from each of Bastok's zones--each of those stores has more than one NPC, each with a different list of items. Each city (even Jueno and the outliying areas of Mhaura, Selbina, Khazaam, Tavnazia, etc.) havfe vendors selling gear and consumable items/crafting materials.

The AH's will be merging soon, so the gear you aren't seeing in your starter city that may be available in other AH's will soon become available to you via the unified AH. Some may find they can make a spot of gil again listing NPC gears available only in their nation and listing it on the AH (some still do this with the level 7 gear, or upgrade it to something like lizard gear and AH it).

Couple all that with the fact that you level twice as fast now outside of abyssea due to the recent XP/FoV tweaks--you don't need to upgrade your gear constantly now. You can easily make a set of gear last 7 levels (or more now, depending on the job/gear). Once you hit @level 60-69 gear (which is still available on the AH), you can pretty much wear most of that (maybe mixed in with some AF) until you hit 78 for the "free" Abyssea gears.

I saw this but just a few things

1. The prices are ridiculously stupid. They were most likely set high so people wouldnt buy here rather than crafters. But now theres no one crafting these item and the prices are still high, its a lost cause.

2. Conquest points are hard to earn to be spending on gear and you need the missions done, which can be tricky when no one is helping any-more unless you're very lucky to find help, a lot of new players can be easily stuck prior to rank 3.

3. Crafting currently has zero appeal for new players, infact in my entire 5 years playing prior to quitting I never crafted once and I don't now as it just takes too much time and I'm a casual player.

4. It isn't much about no gear on starter AH's its about the whole scene. There is lacking amounts of gear anywhere even Jeuno and the gear that is in, is usually over priced due to low quantities and a greedy player base (but that's just life).

Now it is true you do level quite fast compared to before but I was stuck in level 1 gear all the way to 22+ until someone donated their old gear to me, a full set! I had collected 30k and people were selling low level gear for almost same price as venders! I could upgrade my weapon and buy body/legs with that, if I'm lucky.

Those who are not new or not returning have absolute no idea how difficult it is for a new player. You think its all just a breeze "do this, get this and viola!" but its difficult.

no gil
no skills
no spells
no armor
no parties
no chocobo
no teleporting
no friends
no linkshell
ziltch.

Also just to put it out there, a game shouldn't force you off game in order to figure out stuff. I love clopedia but thats because im a returning player and know of it, but a new player will not know it and will become frustrated being in this crappy situation

[Kazen]

Oh please it's a joke to make gil atm. I know when I buy simple materials off AH because I'm lazy the prices are gouged to a huge amount. I was paying 5k/ea recently for Tiger Hides which is something a low level person could farm easily. I also had to pay 35k for a stack of silver ingots recently, something that you can make fairly easily using a vendor if you actually need to make a little money. Money is so much easier to make now than it was in the past; new people complaining about prices don't know how things were. I'll admit prices have went up, however, so has the price of everything else including what can be sold by a new character.

[viion]

Oh please it's a joke to make gil atm. I know when I buy simple materials off AH because I'm lazy the prices are gouged to a huge amount. I was paying 5k/ea recently for Tiger Hides which is something a low level person could farm easily. I also had to pay 35k for a stack of silver ingots recently, something that you can make fairly easily using a vendor if you actually need to make a little money. Money is so much easier to make now than it was in the past; new people complaining about prices don't know how things were. I'll admit prices have went up, however, so has the price of everything else including what can be sold by a new character.

Tiger Hide = 1k my server Drops from level 25 tigers in Jugner with 10% droprate, so I'd have to kill 10 to make 1k (And thats just statistically not guaranteed). I'd also have to be level 30 to kill effectively as even at 20 they 3 shotted me. Remember, new player has NO money, NO gear, NO skills, most likely NO or low Subjob, Low level weapon. etc. Extremely difficult to kill tigers when you're so unbelievably weak as a new character.

For the Silver Ingots I'd need the money to get goldsmithing to 20.

Both stupid ways to make money

[Greatguardian]

Crystals. Gardening. It's not hard at all to scan FFXIAH for things that sell well at decent prices on your server that you can farm at low levels. Beehive chips were fairly good money way back when.

Leveling low tier crafts is a joke. If you care enough, you can just harvest/mine to get materials to take them to 20~ish without any issue while making a profit. It may take longer, but if you won't pursue any other means to get gil then it's better than nothing.

[Kazen]

Wind Crystals 4k/stack
Grass cloth 5k/stack
Grass thread 4k/stack
Silk thread 6k/stack
Copper Ingots 10k/stack
Bronze ingots 5k/stack
Darksteel ore 8k/each
Gold ore 7k/each
Beehive chips 4k/stack

[viion]

I like how you instantly refer to FFXIAH, as stated before. A NEW player will NOT know these sites, and shouldn't be forced OFF GAME in order to progress. Its just stupid. You should be able to find it all out in game very easily, making a new player not feel frustrated.

Yes beehive chips are good, but does a new player know this!? NO so its pointless.

You can keep posting "here is my way woot", is your post on some kind of billboard ingame that everyone can see? No so its pointless. I personally know ways to make gil when im further on, but thats because i have years of experience and knowledge, but as i keep saying a new player doesnt and the game is unwelcoming and unfriendly to those.

You say harvest/mine, no one is selling the mining tools and how do I get money for those!? lol. As they'll break often, plus its extremely time consuming and I garauntee you most new players are casual. hardcore players are either already playing or not playing (thus playing other games).

Crystals are good, but just to point out, I collected 15 stacks, which could have made me a nice 75k, but NOPE because the MISSIONS need them, so I've lost them all in order to just do the missions. So until I'm like rank 6 crystals are not much of a selling point for me unless I dont plan on doing any missions, but personally I want to so I'm forced with a penalty.

But even 75k doesn't stretch far. Remember: Low Qauntity of items meaning less items, less choice, and higher prices as demand is still medium.