Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
I know there was gimps in the past, there is gimps now, i was just saying I am worse off with the gimps now then in the past because people a lot of times gear so horrid now they cannot get anything done.
I have to disagree with this, as a matter of fact, I actually see less gimps now than I used to before Abyssea. Don't get me wrong, they still exist, and there's still plenty of them.

Though to be fair, one of the main reasons I see less of them now is because I have a group of friends I always (and exclusively) do stuff with, either that or I solo. I have little interaction with the majority of the gimps that have made the trek to level 90. I don't join any shout groups for NM's, events or even exp. My LS does weekly "leech" pt's on Sundays, and we simply rotate who is killing and who is leeching, and we only let LS members join.

Now, I'm well aware that this creates somewhat of a biased point of view, since I exclude the gimps and the idiots from my personal FFXI experience.

But this does bring up a separate point; if you, or anyone else, is having such a hard time with gimps, then why are you bothering to play with them? It's obviously possible, as I have done it, everyone else in my LS has done it, and I'm quite sure it would be folly to say that we're the only group who can accomplish such a feat. The answer is much more simple than most people make it out to be: stop partying with the people you don't want to. Make friends, join a group. Not only will your experience be much more fun, but you're much more likely to get a bunch more things done in a much more efficient manner (which in turn is likely to make the game more fun as well). If you think it'd be hard to get into a group, since these groups are likely to not joining shout group as well, it's not that hard to walk up to people you see successfully and skillfully killing an NM that your typical gimps can't and send a /tell. There's also countless LS's that have websites, and even forums that you could simply ask who might be someone to talk to.

Now that we've established that it's entirely possible to cut the gimps almost completely out of your personal gaming picture, the next point I want to mention is that if these gimps to get to 90 (99)... so what? While it can be annoying to see a group take 30 minutes to kill something as trivial as most of the Iron Giants, there's still very little direct interaction. They can quest away their seals for AF3+1, never attempt +2 for all I care, they're still (in general, though exceptions certainly do exist) better geared than they used to be. And they are able to get stuff done for themselves. While I consider myself a well above average player, I don't hold on to some sort of feeling that the lesser skilled deserve nothing. In fact, it's healthy for the game as a whole if they can do stuff, whether it's the simple NM's, leveling all jobs to 90, questing, attempting (and failing) at harder NM's, capping merits, shouting for mercs to beat Rani for them, whatever, if their interest is maintained in the game, it's likely to last longer. So let the gimps have their fun, and let them get far better gear than they used to be able to (admit it, despite the fact that full perle is lols, it's much better than the hodgepodge of shit we used to see). The more subscribers the better, and besides, they have zero impact on me, aside from occasionally making my group wait a bit longer to pop an NM, because that's the way I choose to play - without the gimps.

And this is not an argument supporting the tired old "it's their $12.95." I'm not at all arguing that they don't suck, because they do, I'm only saying that it only matters if you let it.