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  1. #101
    Player Eeek's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenshibaby View Post
    I am shunning it here and look at all the haters! lol
    The noobs were easier to identify when they weren't given a welcome package when purchasing FF11 "Welcome to Vana'diel! Here's your 90 and btw, we went ahead and gave you all your XBox live achievements so you don't feel left out. We're confident after a few hours of skilling up you'll be better than the majority of veterans."
    Oh come on! This isn't even close to reality and you know it. You're flailing.
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    -- Fan of Abyssea and FFXI's New Direction --
    -- THF - DNC - BLM - RDM --

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenshibaby View Post
    My Maat's cap was earned before Abyssea, so it is far more meaningful than your 10 90's you seem so proud of. :-)
    So the fact that you spent countless of hours exping all those jobs, automatically makes you a better player than someone who has leeched 1 or more jobs in abyssea? Or someone that's smn burned a job? Or God forbid - anyone that's ever had a PL?

    As for me, I never wanted Maat's Cap, there are certain jobs I cannot stand playing or that I simply have no interest in playing. Hence my 10 90s only. :-)

    You should do yourself a favour and take a long break from the game, you are so bitter about your Maat's Cap and the fact that exping has become easier, it can't possibly be good for your mental health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  3. #103
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    I think that not making people depend on fools while grinding up slow painful exp. is good - who cares how many 90s the fools have? You don't have to depend on them anymore.

    I don't think that leeches are the problem. What IS a problem is people who can't do Abyssea for whatever reason are fairly screwed. I am speaking from experience here. Trying to find a party outside Abyssea sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenshibaby View Post
    You're more than welcome to PM me whatever you said. I never saw it. All I saw was your pathetic attempts at mocking my last-minute gear for grabbing an NM on BST. Congrats, maybe they will make detective movies based on your life.

    Actually, the reasons I am against Abyssea leeching go far beyond cheapening the Maat's cap, although PL and SMN burn did their fair share prior to Abyssea. It has more to do with the fact that I guess I am one of the few old school players who bothered to learn their job. I get tired of seeing the same people /sh in Jeuno for people to help them leech. I get tired of seeing noobs who don't have the spells for their jobs, who don't know SATA doesn't have to stack after 60, who think Haste reduces weakened time, and who come on forums to defend leeching. There is a plethora of players at 90 who don't know their job. It used to be most 75's knew their jobs pretty well, aside from the BRD's who got invited just because of their jobs, or the WHM's that had a PL covering their butts until ~65.
    Lmao alot of thfs didnt know how sata worked long before even level sync was introduced. Same with other dd was my biggest headache setting sata up when levling thf sub up pre level sync.

    All that other stuff was there way before abyssea was bird parties and smn burn. Before that was axe,fist and mana burn parties
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    I don't think that leeches are the problem. What IS a problem is people who can't do Abyssea for whatever reason are fairly screwed. I am speaking from experience here. Trying to find a party outside Abyssea sucks.
    If there were no easy mode, you wouldn't have trouble finding non-Abyssea xp parties. This is why I hope SE blocks any xp gain past 90 in Abyssea. I can see making the path more streamlined for 75+, but SE made a big mistake allowing people to gain xp at lower levels. THAT is a HUGE reason people can't find xp parties outside Abyssea (and I sympathize, as I refuse to leech my jobs there and rely on soloing or rare xp parties).

    The whole argument is pointless anyway. It's like being trapped on an island of kids who scoff at the idea that they should eat vegetables before dessert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenshibaby View Post
    I'm 90 now so how do I play my job?


    Sad state the game has sunken to.
    Because no one sucked at their jobs before...
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    The point at which the guy brought up Bards being gimp for fulltiming Marches really pretty much solidified for me that he's basically your stereotypical Pre-Abyssea Maat's Cap. Tons of jobs, doesn't know a damn thing about game mechanics or gear.

    Protip: 99.99999% of the time, a single March will add significantly more damage than any other bard song. The whole "Haste = Miss Faster" bullshit should have died in 2006.
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    I will have my revenge!

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenshibaby View Post
    If there were no easy mode, you wouldn't have trouble finding non-Abyssea xp parties. This is why I hope SE blocks any xp gain past 90 in Abyssea. I can see making the path more streamlined for 75+, but SE made a big mistake allowing people to gain xp at lower levels. THAT is a HUGE reason people can't find xp parties outside Abyssea (and I sympathize, as I refuse to leech my jobs there and rely on soloing or rare xp parties).
    Hmmm, I think they just need to increase the rewards for not leeching Abyssea - like add better drops to BCNMs, make crystals somehow more useful, exp more comparable - I dunno - I am more in favour of buffing outside areas than nerfing Abyssea.
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    Thought my post would stop the generalizing.

    Leveling the old way does not atomically a better player so quit sounding like your views are based on that. Leeching a job does not atomically mean you will always suck at it.

    HOWEVER! The leeching does mean more people will be gimp/ low performing at jobs then in the past, but like I explained in my post that does not hold true for EVERYONE! People are also lazier while leveing in abyssea, I do try to get said people kicked if they do not change. ( I try not to be elitist but you need to be at lest trying to be productive)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    ..... Greatguardian probably does not fit that "most".
    can click that to go to my post ( for people that missed it)
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    Last edited by Rambus; 03-31-2011 at 02:56 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    When the level cap was first raised, and we didn't know how abyssea worked, I wanted to cry at the thought of having to exp my 7 75s. Having to put up with gimp ass DDs, drks fulltiming souleater, people leaving the party with 1 minute notice, no brds seeking omg!, shitty healers, 1 or even 2 party members afking unannounced, and competing for exp camps and mobs for a few k exp per hour - it was the last thing I wanted to go through again.

    The first week or so, that's exactly what happened too. Every damn possible exp camp was full to the max and then some. Ffs I went to PROMYVION for exp and had to compete for mobs there too!!!

    Thank you SE, for abyssea.
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    Last edited by Tamoa; 03-31-2011 at 03:00 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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