So i leeched my job to 90 in abyssea

[Neisan_Quetz]

You could skip the entire Minne and probably Peaon line of songs on Bard and no one would really care all that much (Cannonball isn't a reason).

[Eeek]

Nah, he's probably just excessively bitter about Abyssea leveling. S/he has a Maat's Cap (and the silly gear selections common amongst those with the Cap), and I'm thinking that they did a large part of that exping before Abyssea and the level cap increase.

To be fair, I'd probably be bitter myself.

[Tenshibaby]

You're more than welcome to PM me whatever you said. I never saw it. All I saw was your pathetic attempts at mocking my last-minute gear for grabbing an NM on BST. Congrats, maybe they will make detective movies based on your life.

Actually, the reasons I am against Abyssea leeching go far beyond cheapening the Maat's cap, although PL and SMN burn did their fair share prior to Abyssea. It has more to do with the fact that I guess I am one of the few old school players who bothered to learn their job. I get tired of seeing the same people /sh in Jeuno for people to help them leech. I get tired of seeing noobs who don't have the spells for their jobs, who don't know SATA doesn't have to stack after 60, who think Haste reduces weakened time, and who come on forums to defend leeching. There is a plethora of players at 90 who don't know their job. It used to be most 75's knew their jobs pretty well, aside from the BRD's who got invited just because of their jobs, or the WHM's that had a PL covering their butts until ~65.

[Eeek]

Rose-colored glasses.

Do we really need to copy-paste the whole 'noobs have always existed' argument yet again?

People have been begging in all the cities since FFXI started. Fact.

Noobs have always been missing critical spells. In fact, noobs are missing critical spells right now. When the servers finally go down, noobs will be there, missing critical spells. Fact.

Lots of THFs misunderstand how SA/TA work. Fact.

A sizable number of players have never and will never understand how Haste works. Fact.

Most 75s, back in the day, knew how to play their jobs. Fact? Ahahahahahahahahahaahahahano.

There were a plethora of players who didn't know their jobs well at every single level cap since 2002. Fact.

[cidbahamut]

There will always be noobs. Nothing will change that. People are idiots but that won't stop them from playing and enjoying the game. There are terrible players who leech and terrible players who level via traditional means. Similarly, there are good players who leech and good players who level via traditional means.

You can't fix stupid, the best you can hope for is to shun it and make sure its flawed ideas don't corrupt other players.

[Tenshibaby]

So your contention is that the percentage of capped noobs is essentially the same? How can you justify that, being that the bar has been set so low now to be capped? It has no logical basis. I hate to de-bunk the myths some of you like to tell yourselves to justify taking the easy route, but that's simply common sense. And you guys think I throw the word "delusional" around just to engage in name-calling? It fits the definition.

[Tenshibaby]

There will always be noobs. Nothing will change that. People are idiots but that won't stop them from playing and enjoying the game. There are terrible players who leech and terrible players who level via traditional means. Similarly, there are good players who leech and good players who level via traditional means.

You can't fix stupid, the best you can hope for is to shun it and make sure its flawed ideas don't corrupt other players.

I am shunning it here and look at all the haters! lol
The noobs were easier to identify when they weren't given a welcome package when purchasing FF11 "Welcome to Vana'diel! Here's your 90 and btw, we went ahead and gave you all your XBox live achievements so you don't feel left out. We're confident after a few hours of skilling up you'll be better than the majority of veterans."

[cidbahamut]

No, you're raving about how a method of gaining exp is "Oh noes teh most terribul thing evar".

[Tamoa]

We get it - you like missing faster for less damage. You probably think it makes Provoke faster and Utsusemi cast faster. In other words, you think BRD basically needs about 6 songs in the entire game. Let me guess: Abyssea-leveled your jobs too?

I am a REAL BRD, WHM, RDM, etc. and I can tell you if I let melees dictate what spells to cast, our leveling would have been less efficient.

All I'm seeing is someone who's butthurt because their Maat's Cap doesn't mean jack shit anymore.

[Tenshibaby]

All I'm seeing is someone who's butthurt because their Maat's Cap doesn't mean jack shit anymore.

My Maat's cap was earned before Abyssea, so it is far more meaningful than your 10 90's you seem so proud of. :-)