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  1. #11
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Damn... so SE openly supports people being carried to level cap without learning there job? I thought the leeching issue was a small type of exploit or whatever.... if this is the case then why allow access at level 30 in the first place? Well I guess my next question is what is required of me at level 30 to warrant me allowance into a party to leech?
    They gave it a 30 cap to let lower level people explore them if they wanted to, I'm sure they had no idea people would grasp onto leeching as heavily as they did. Since they aren't changing the cap or nerfing XP <70 I'll assume they are fine with it though..no matter how much damage it does to the party system.
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    Player Kingofgeeks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exeeter View Post
    Damn... so SE openly supports people being carried to level cap without learning there job? I thought the leeching issue was a small type of exploit or whatever.... if this is the case then why allow access at level 30 in the first place? Well I guess my next question is what is required of me at level 30 to warrant me allowance into a party to leech?
    haha excellent quote, sir
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    Player Gallus's Avatar
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    Hey look it's a troll thread. You're not leeching in my books if you're keying the chests. If min level was 70+ you'd never find someone to actually key the chests and they would be contributing as much to the party as a lvl 30 would. Alas, this topic has been beaten like a dead horse that has already been beaten to a pulp. Really, could we get over it?
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  4. #14
    Player Soulfire's Avatar
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    So I read that there can be only a total of 3 leechers in a party/alliance? How does the leeching work? Just join the party and then just xp in abyssea? I know it use too be if a char was a lot higher than u in a party little to no xp was given. Just curious still trying to get the whole abyssea down.
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    Player viion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfire View Post
    So I read that there can be only a total of 3 leechers in a party/alliance? How does the leeching work? Just join the party and then just xp in abyssea? I know it use too be if a char was a lot higher than u in a party little to no xp was given. Just curious still trying to get the whole abyssea down.
    There is no level difference penalties inside Abyssea. Leech is just join @ 30 then /follow someone or just stand there and take the EXP From the mobs peeps kill. People dont like this for the fact of "I'm doing all work but he isnt" jealousy. And cuse people for some reason think if you leech you dont learn your job, while true if you spend a day googling and clopediaing around, and then a week skilling up, you've pretty much learnt your job, there is nothing much more to it.

    Some people pay to leech and they pay a lot, I remember when SMN Burn PT's were big and I used to burn people from 12 to 75 in 2 days and I made about 4m doing it per person. I made bucket loads but that was a lot less player demanding, im assuming Abyssea is now same and people are making millions of other peoples laziness. While some randomer is jealous.

    If you dont want to be a hated leecher, you need to cruor to open the chests (think that is it, i havent done abyssea but read around).

    Unfortunately new players will not have cruor and not be able to open any chests, nor have the connections or friends to help, so all new players unless they're lucky or just beg like a ho, wont get chance to leech until they're able to go in there and solo up some cruor then leech after.
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    Last edited by viion; 03-30-2011 at 09:05 PM.

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    Player Soulfire's Avatar
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    That sux I don't have millions to pay ppl to leech. I've been in jeuno with my flag up since I've been back and haven't had any luck getting into a party. I'm 54dancer/ninja and there doesn't seem to be any normal parties so I don't know what I'm going to do lol. Maybe I'll get into a abyssea party today *Fingers crossed*
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    Player bungiefan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    There is no level difference penalties inside Abyssea. Leech is just join @ 30 then /follow someone or just stand there and take the EXP From the mobs peeps kill. People dont like this for the fact of "I'm doing all work but he isnt" jealousy. And cuse people for some reason think if you leech you dont learn your job, while true if you spend a day googling and clopediaing around, and then a week skilling up, you've pretty much learnt your job, there is nothing much more to it.

    Some people pay to leech and they pay a lot, I remember when SMN Burn PT's were big and I used to burn people from 12 to 75 in 2 days and I made about 4m doing it per person. I made bucket loads but that was a lot less player demanding, im assuming Abyssea is now same and people are making millions of other peoples laziness. While some randomer is jealous.

    If you dont want to be a hated leecher, you need to cruor to open the chests (think that is it, i havent done abyssea but read around).

    Unfortunately new players will not have cruor and not be able to open any chests, nor have the connections or friends to help, so all new players unless they're lucky or just beg like a ho, wont get chance to leech until they're able to go in there and solo up some cruor then leech after.
    Actually, there are level difference penalties. Monsters that start out at ~100 exp for a level 75 will only be worth 1-5 for a level 30. However, lights the enemies drop, and the chain bonus, increase the exp floor per mob over time, so the minimum EXP you can get per mob slowly approaches the 600-something exp range before it caps out. If you join as a level 30, you get almost no exp at first except from chests, but the lights increase the minimum by 5-10 exp per light, so evenmtually you are getting the exp that everyone else is once you've been in the zone for a couple of hours.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Tahngarthor
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    Damn... so SE openly supports people being carried to level cap without learning there job?
    If you didn't learn anything between 1 and 30, then you're not going to learn the rest of the way up either. I've yet to meet someone who raised a job in abyssea who is as clueless as you and most people would suggest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Unfortunately new players will not have cruor and not be able to open any chests, nor have the connections or friends to help, so all new players unless they're lucky or just beg like a ho, wont get chance to leech until they're able to go in there and solo up some cruor then leech after.
    lol @ the beg like a ho part...

    But yeah - new players are mostly stuck soloing till 75+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfire View Post
    That sux I don't have millions to pay ppl to leech. I've been in jeuno with my flag up since I've been back and haven't had any luck getting into a party. I'm 54dancer/ninja and there doesn't seem to be any normal parties so I don't know what I'm going to do lol. Maybe I'll get into a abyssea party today *Fingers crossed*
    Yeah - 52 BST here. Honestly - you'll get more levels getting out there and soloing/duoing than standing around hoping for someone to let you leech for free. You're not the only one out there - so yeah - I suggest Altep - at least on Asura there is a lot of people in their 40s and 50s there. Sync up and get some exp - do books while you wait for an invite.
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