Any new HNM coming?

[Natenn]

if a NM like that was 1-2 week pop no one would "camp" it. eve 3-5 days, id not be looking for it like a mad man. i might take a stroll around on a chocobo occasionaly but not long.

[Sasukeuchiha]

if a NM like that was 1-2 week pop no one would "camp" it

Sure there would but only a select few.

[Runespider]

4hr window, i camped sw/di everyday till Lv85 came out, botg were 20-24 bar the SW skips occasionaly bc to many in Everbloom

DI was 4 but campaign made it go on longer and JPs always scared it to extend the tods, SW was 5 and it despawned if unclaimed for an hour. I camped them every day since a few months after they added them till they added Abyssea, wasted way too much of my life rescanning over and over for a disgusting amount of time every day, as did many others.

if a NM like that was 1-2 week pop no one would "camp" it

So they just made an NM that nobody legit will camp but that people can buy alts and park in zones to death scan instead, you just made HNM just for cheaters again. People would pay over $1k for good bots, you think they won't pay a few extra bucks a month for however many mules?

[Natenn]

Not me lol and SW/DI never popped in same zone the died/depop in last. theres over 20 zones they can make it pop in, and if its a 1-2 week pop thats only 4-8 death spots a month, the chance of it popping in a zone 2x b4 a maintenance or update is extremly low, making DS camping unreliable.

[Runespider]

Not me lol and SW/DI never popped in same zone the died/depop in last. theres over 20 zones they can make it pop in, and if its a 1-2 week pop thats only 4-8 death spots a month, the chance of it popping in a zone 2x b4 a maintenance or update is extremly low, making DS camping unreliable.

The general rule of thumb in FFXI is bot makers > Square devs in regard to spawning HNM, people made way too much rl money off them for it to be any other way. No matter how fullproof you think your idea is they would end up going to the same LS that had that specific app made to find the mob, nobody would just stumble onto it.

[Natenn]

Bot don't mean you can kill it.

[Runespider]

Bot don't mean you can kill it.

Shells with reliable bots attract more/better members since they get claim, that means they can kill it.

[Svenny]

There are only three possibilities for HNM "challenge"

A. A 100% win strategy is figured out, and it becomes easy.

B. It's impossible to kill (e.g. oldschool Absolute Virtue)

C. Whether you win or loose is a lottery based on what it does. Either you get lucky and win or you are unlucky and it does something and destroys you.

I'll take B please! ^^;

[Tivaud]

Well were all entitled to our opinion, heres my opinion: I play on PS2 only, i outclaimed bots plenty of times and i rarely got beat on SW/DI. bar kings you stand a better chance claiming legit then vs a bot, even then ive claimed more with PS2 then ppl botting did. I think forced pop NM are to easy to access and kill. All the FF games usually have several rare/hard to beat/great reward monsters, this 1 doesn't anymore.

I see your point about anyone poppin anytime, but just because you pop it, doesn't mean you can beat it. Making the required pop set difficult to get or time consuming is nearly the same as 1-7 day HNMs. I would suggest just making the pop NMs much harder with respect to lvl 99 jobs and in Abyssea the HNMs should be even more difficult due to the introduction of brewing.

[Tivaud]

Maby a system like "Mob pops claimed to a random person in its aggro range thats above a certain lvl" that way it's impossible for anyone to bot and claims get distributed accordingly. Like say if they did this to Fafnir and made minimum lvl 70. you bring 6 ppl, theres a total of 12 in his aggro range above Lv70 = you have a 50% chance it pops claimed to you. I think this is a good idea, just tweak it a bit ect. OR if you bring 6 ppl but 2 are Lv69 or less with 12 total aggro range but only 10 are 70+ = your PT has a 40% chance to claim 4/10 eligible in range.

So what happens if you and your 6 man group are waiting on it and a LS of 30 ppl show up...now you're chances are crap. (17%)