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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anon View Post
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    I have no idea what you mean by "People like me". Is that a Racist comment? I've reported you for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anon View Post
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    Saying "its not a superiority complex" right before defining superiority complex doesn't make it any less so, just sayin.

    No you really can't. Either people will figure out a strategy that will allow them to always win or it'll be like oldschool AV and be completely impossible.
    yea, because if the NM is 21-24 hours, you'll never bea ble to come up with a strategy to beat the NM. Clever thinking there, buddy.
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  3. #173
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    oh boo hoo, mods aren't gonna ban ppl unless something bluntly offensive is said.

    Hey SE, soon as you announced new HNM i told my ex ffxi ppl who quit to go play WoW and like not even 3m later i had 5 ppl saying they'll come back to FFXI if they're world spawn HNM. Now im only 1 person and i got 5 ppl ready to pay $12 a month again, theres prolly a ton of other ppl that would be back to. Smart move on your part, though the ppl sulking about it might not like it they won't quit/deactivate their account, not enough of them vs the amount that would be back. SE aim is to profit like any other company in the world, they'll do w/e brings in the most cash for them. Am i wrong?
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    Honest to god I would be totally amenable to HNM's that just dropped awesome furniture pieces.

    In any case, it seems like the major argument for the old-style HNM's is that it was "challenging". I don't particularly see how the higher tier abyssea NM's are less challenging than the older ones. Sure you have the option to brew, and there are the weakness triggers for reliable drops but there aren't really too many big NM's that you can throw an alliance of clueless people with no semblance of strategy at and expect them to win. I think the abyssea HNM system put the stress where it needed to be - fighting the monster as opposed to claiming it. Sure, it requires considerably less organization and time, thus making gear more readily available and making that epona's ring of yours feel less special than your defending ring but does the perception that you clawed your way through more people for one really make it more valuable?

    I'm sure not everybody who liked the old-style HNM's got off on the fact that they were part of some "Elite Group", smugly listening to the server-wide whispers of that one linkshell that totally dominates. But I think the old NM spawn and claim systems rightfully deserve to stay in the past - they were kind of a poorly thought out concept that players just got used to as the standard of highest difficulty and skill in my opinion.

    As far as people who liked the challenge of competing with other people for gear, instead of the old HNM system why not push for a more rigorous PVP system where good gear is gained from your accrued victories (more like assault and less like "get it in afew hours" cruor gear). You'd get your hands on gear that people knew required skill to get while still giving you the satisfaction of ruining somebody else's day.
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    Player Natenn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibayama
    does the perception that you clawed your way through more people for one really make it more valuable?
    To me, yes it does, it means all my hard work keepin track of ToD/not giving up paid off. It took me years to get D ring, fighting against botters up till the day i got it. So yea its of much more value to me then an eponas ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Hey SE, soon as you announced new HNM i told my ex ffxi ppl who quit to go play WoW and like not even 3m later i had 5 ppl saying they'll come back to FFXI if they're world spawn HNM. Now im only 1 person and i got 5 ppl ready to pay $12 a month again, theres prolly a ton of other ppl that would be back to. Smart move on your part, though the ppl sulking about it might not like it they won't quit/deactivate their account, not enough of them vs the amount that would be back. SE aim is to profit like any other company in the world, they'll do w/e brings in the most cash for them. Am i wrong?
    You were part of HNMLS and therefore have HNM members. A minority, nonetheless.

    In the process of crying your way to AH-Elite jack holes you've almost ruined FF. Hopefully some more world HNM's would put you guys where you really belong. The bottom of the barrel you speak of. That's what you were in '03~04. And that's where you'll always be.
    There's a very strong chance I'm better than you

    Read through my post. See what I'm talking about? I did quit lol. I linger here because it's fun. I rather enjoy watching you white knighters and gimps galore get blown up and bow out silently. Makes me smile on the inside. On topic world hnm's would be a good idea. Bring people like me back to ruin the days of people like you.
    Play some real competitive games, not just "buy a bot and claim" and get destroyed. If you thrive off of the "competition" of the claim, you need to play real competition.
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    Last edited by Wherffin; 03-30-2011 at 07:40 PM.
    This is Sakurawr, not Raen D:

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    So you are calling me retarded? Im am offended by your statement greatly and am outraged, i have a family member who is retarded and you dare mock them? I will report this outrage.
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    Player RaenRyong's Avatar
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    In the colloquial and non-literal sense of the term, yes - your arguments are very poor and are essentially based on your need to wave your epeen around. The game is better off without you.
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    This is Sakurawr, not Raen D:

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    Player Natenn's Avatar
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    How do i report ppl? I don't see a report user anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    So you are calling me retarded? Im am offended by your statement greatly and am outraged, i have a family member who is retarded and you dare mock them? I will report this outrage.
    If you think he was mocking w/e family that you probably never had to begin with, you obviously misunderstood his point, so if he isn't calling you it, I am.

    Edit: in before being reported for calling you "it"!
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