Any new HNM coming?

[Natenn]

the real life card? well played sir, well played.


Edit: i would be happy, why add the best gear to stuff that can be spammed? at least with HNM you see who really put the time/work in to earn it.

[Cream_Soda]

the real life card? well played sir, well played.


Edit: i would be happy, why add the best gear to stuff that can be spammed? at least with HNM you see who really put the time/work in to earn it.

Because sitting around for up to 3hrs at a time is your definition of work?

A NM doesn't have to be a 21-24 hour spawn to be difficult, lol.

"Oh hey, I put in so much work. I sat there for 3 hours, actually tried to claim it for 2 minutes, and fought it for 20 minutes!"

[woie]

the real life card? well played sir, well played.


Edit: i would be happy, why add the best gear to stuff that can be spammed? at least with HNM you see who really put the time/work in to earn it.

no what you see are A) elietist pricks who stood on evryone to get it or B) botters

[Runespider]

Seriously though content should be available to everyone not a select few with big wallets to spend on bots.

It used to be accepted cause it was how FFXI was, people accepted that do get an Ebody you had to join certain botting shells or buy it off a RMT linkshell and that was just how it was. They changed all that with Abyssea and many people came back due to the changes, so people really won't take it very well if they try to go back down that road now lol

Can the FFXI dev team be stupid enough to try change the game back now? will see I guess. Old HNM = Botting and linkshells that sold the drops for RMT.

This staff comment is more worrying than exciting to me, I wish they would post how they plan them to be spawned or something. If they are going back to old FFXI I'm calling it quits after 8 years, I've had enough of that crappy bot ridden life draining endgame. Can't give people steak and go back to coconuts.

[Mrbeansman]

It used to be accepted cause it was how FFXI was, people accepted that do get an Ebody you had to join certain botting shells or buy it off a RMT linkshell and that was just how it was. They changed all that with Abyssea and many people came back due to the changes, so people really won't take it very well if they try to go back down that road now lol

Can the FFXI dev team be stupid enough to try change the game back now? will see I guess. Old HNM = Botting and linkshells that sold the drops for RMT.

This staff comment is more worrying than exciting to me, I wish they would post how they plan them to be spawned or something. If they are going back to old FFXI I'm calling it quits after 8 years, I've had enough of that crappy bot ridden life draining endgame. Can't give people steak and go back to coconuts.

Yeah complaining about botting kings is a moot point at this point. I just don't want to see SE add more bottable HNMs.

[Psxpert2011]

"Botting" was the biggest problem which disabled the fun factor for legit players everywhere and I don't think we deserve to suffer the consequences from those who are lazy, greedy or who are utterly disrespectful and inconsiderate of the rest of the community. The game suffers, more countermeasures are added and it's plain cheating the challenge. If there was a way to tracked third party tools, how come "botters" where never punished?

Okay, enough of my yappin, I think the zones where HNMs reside are just plain targeted because of the lack of precaution needed to claim them when they pop. Let's say you need more than one person (like six members), the area would be guarded by EP mobs with no value that would link to the ground king if it aggroes any by-standards.

I think the same method would apply as to the fisher-bots, keep the character activated and busy. No two set of bots would constantly be doing two things at the same time and before you know it, they'll be dead, or reported and probably banned.

[Malamasala]

Because he does no longer drop anything interesting. Which is just proof of how nobody kills a single HNM for challenge, only for items.

[Atomic_Skull]

Because he does no longer drop anything interesting. Which is just proof of how nobody kills a single HNM for challenge, only for items.

I remember something I read years ago about this.

"People who claim to want "challenge" in MMO endgame bosses are clearly lying. They don't want a challenge, they want something slightly harder than easy"

An example of this in FFXI would be Einherjar. People said they wanted king/sky gear without having to camp and SE gave it to them. Then they complained that Einherjar was too hard, so SE dumbed it down. Then they complained that they had to show up to a 30 minute event twice a week so SE changed it so only the person trading the lamp had to have all feathers.. Then they complained that the drop rates were too low.

People will never stop complaining until everything they want is handed out by a NPC for free.

[Sasukeuchiha]

I remember something I read years ago about this.

"People who claim to want "challenge" in MMO endgame bosses are clearly lying. They don't want a challenge, they want something slightly harder than easy"

An example of this in FFXI would be Einherjar. People said they wanted king/sky gear without having to camp and SE gave it to them. Then they complained that Einherjar was too hard, so SE dumbed it down. Then they complained that they had to show up to a 30 minute event twice a week so SE changed it so only the person trading the lamp had to have all feathers.. Then they complained that the drop rates were too low.

People will never stop complaining until everything they want is handed out by a NPC for free.

I do not want anything handed to me i just want a system that more fair and does not promote cheating aka botting. It is unfair to the people who actualy trying to play the game right. Harder more challenging nms is ok by me as long as being able to fight the nm is fair for everyone.

[Atomic_Skull]

I do not want anything handed to me i just want a system that more fair and does not promot cheating aka botting. ITs unfair to the people who actualy trying to play the game right. Harder more chalanging nms is ok by me as long as being able to fight the nm is fair for everyone.

If that's true then you shouldn't have any problems with this idea:

Have the mob stay yellow for 5 seconds after it pops. During this time anyone can attack it. After 5 seconds are up claim will be passed to a random person on the mob's hate list.

This way you still have the excitement and competition of world spawns because you have to be paying attention and be fast to get into the claim pool. But bots would give no advantage to claiming the mob.