Any new HNM coming?

[Draylo]

lol wow that is hilarious. Just because people like a challenge they are automatically at the bottom of the barrel, teehee.

[Karbuncle]

iTroll

Nothings challenging about openning a Bot. which is what most of Old-School HNM camping was. You can create a Challenge without a 21-24hr window.

Stop trollin!

[Atomic_Skull]

Nothings challenging about openning a Bot. which is what most of Old-School HNM camping was. You can create a Challenge without a 21-24hr window.

No you really can't. Either people will figure out a strategy that will allow them to always win or it'll be like oldschool AV and be completely impossible.

I already said how they you could make bots 100% useless on HNM's earlier. You just have the mob open to attack by anyone for about 5 seconds when it pops and then give claim to a random person on the hate list.

[Karbuncle]

No you really can't. Either people will figure out a strategy that will allow them to always win or it'll be like oldschool AV and be completely impossible.

I already said how they you could make bots 100% useless on HNM's earlier. You just have the mob open to attack by anyone for about 5 seconds when it pops and then give claim to a random person on the hate list.

I may be misinterpreting your statement, and if i am I'm sorry, But Adding a 21-24 Hours window isn't going to make people not be able to figure out a Strategy for Easy win.

I mean, one was discovered for Fafnir, Nidhogg, Aspid, Adamantoise, Behemoth, King Behemoth, Dark Ixion, Sandworm and all his inside Buddies, Cerberus, Hydra, Khimaira, etc etc. For the most part, despite being 21-24hr nms, the hardest thing about them was Claiming against the other botters.

I apologize for confusion but i just don't see the connection between 21-24hour spawns and difficulty. You can make an NM have a short-spawn window, or a Force pop (look at Kirin back in the day, Byakko, etc).

It doesn't have to be as simple as "Kill x mob of x family, get x pop item for x NM" like it is in Abyssea, it could be a system like Sea, Sky, or ZNMs where you had to build up to the HNM.

This may not be directed at you, But i have a feeling all the people itching for 21-24hr world-claim NMs being the level 99 Kings of gear, are just the people who bought thousand dollar bots, only to have thousand-dollar wasted Computer Memory now because of what Abyssea had made the game, and they want the e-peen and false sense of superiority they had back when they ruled the FFXI endgame scene.

[Atomic_Skull]

This may not be directed at you, But i have a feeling all the people itching for 21-24hr world-claim NMs being the level 99 Kings of gear, are just the people who bought thousand dollar bots, only to have thousand-dollar wasted Computer Memory now because of what Abyssea had made the game, and they want the e-peen and false sense of superiority they had back when they ruled the FFXI endgame scene.

Which is why you would make the bots useless by having the mob pop yellow for a few seconds and then pass claim to a random person on it's hate list. That way you'd still have to pay attention and be fast to get claim but it would also make bots completely worthless because attacking it first would not claim it. Claim would be given randomly to one of the people who attacked it during the 2-3 second long claim window.

[RaenRyong]

lol wow that is hilarious. Just because people like a challenge they are automatically at the bottom of the barrel, teehee.

It's the superiority complex, not the wanting of challenge which makes them bottom of the barrel.

Though I don't know why I dignify a response on you.