HP Scaling, Please Remove It

[OmnysValefor]

I know that the official forums attract a different audience than the fan communities, but I'm glad to see that there are still players in this game that don't want to be carried til they're capable.

And that's just it, I don't mean to imply that you necessarily want to be carried through the rest of the game (though some people actually do), but you want all the hard work done for you, by people that will assure you victory, so that you have the gear. My linkshell has a lost puppy that shows up to events he wasn't invited to and just waits to be invited to get loot. It's content he doesn't have the offensive or defensive stats for. He doesn't say anything, doesn't ask, just waits for the invite.

I used to help him quite a bit with earning gear and content/combat advice, but I realized he's standing there just waiting for another serving of help. He will not push forward on his own.

If I can manage to get geared up on Valefor, I assure you that Asurans can do it.

You want to get to go to events by people who will assure you victory and guess what? So would I! Sovereign Behemoth refuses to give me his torque for one measly extra DT% (for my geo and blu--because again, dedication). When I go, I look at my friend's list and linkshell and ask people that I know will carry their own weight. If they're not on, I don't go.

[Zekander]

When I go, I look at my friend's list and linkshell and ask people that I know will carry their own weight. If they're not on, I don't go.

This, exactly this, is my entire point. You take people who you already know can clear the content. You say that if someone gets their gear up to snuff they will be included. Yet you yourself admit you will not take anyone new. Why then do you think anyone else will?

Edit: Sorry, I realized this could sound like a personal attack. I didn't mean it to be, I wanted to illustrate the problem with the entire community. I completely understand why you would do this, I myself am wary of new people. And that right there is the problem, it is mechanics like this one and many others in the game (many of which have been mentioned in this thread) that make us all afraid to include anyone who might drag us down. This should not be happening in a game that asks many people to play together.

[OmnysValefor]

This, exactly this, is my entire point. You take people who you already know can clear the content. You say that if someone gets their gear up to snuff they will be included. Yet you yourself admit you will not take anyone new. Why then do you think anyone else will?

Actually, that's not the case.

I meet new people and witness how they play. If a player seems to perform reasonable, be prepared, and yes--have the gear to be able to perform--I'll bring them with but I also know who I either can't rely on or is just simply not geared enough to be there. If they're exceptional DPS but always the first to die, I'm not interested in bringing them. I don't do the hardest content all day long, I encounter a lot of people.

There's a semi-undergeared player right now that I'm very interested in. He comes as prepared as can be, asks questions if he doesn't know and admits when he makes a mistake. He also plays a WHM so the bar is a little lower on gear requirements (doesn't NEED to be able to debuff the boss, especially since another mage probably can).

You know what else he does? If he doesn't feel like he's geared enough to be there, he'll bow out.

Another guy the other day, pretty nice guy and in fresh gear. He saw an abjuration drop that he wanted but HE deemed that that one piece of gear wouldn't turn him into an amazing performer so he'd pass it on to someone who could use it more*. Completely and totally respect him for that.

* A random example: +50 more accuracy will do more for the guy at 1150 acc than the guy at 850. The second guy will still be whiffing non-stop. So you see, it's not carrying someone through one thing, it becomes necessary to carry them through everything or they can put work into their own character and actually contribute.

For instance, if you're opening (or closing) darkness for the BLMs to MB, I barely care how much your WS did to create the SC, as long as it hit, but I do expect your ws's to land, otherwise you really don't belong there (and when dealing with undergeared people, I try to find multi-hit weaponskills to help them out--I'll favor Requiescat over CDC if the skillchain can work with either).