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    Quote Originally Posted by Selindrile View Post
    Also, if you're reading this, as awesome as Reisenjimma augments are, the augment system is ludicrous, literally everyone I know hates it while simultaneously uses the heck out of it like someone shame-eating and hating themself while doing it, haven't we made it clear that we all hate perfectly random augments? Airlixir/Eshalixir or even Skirmish2's ability to roll one stat at a time are far less enfuriating, I only bring this up to state that I hope this sort of system never becomes part of ambuscade.
    x.x Wow. I feel absolutely the opposite. I loathe Skirmish and Skirmish II's augment system even though it is improved. Rei stones are easy to farm and aren't terribly expensive--I love the Reisenjima system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    x.x Wow. I feel absolutely the opposite. I loathe Skirmish and Skirmish II's augment system even though it is improved. Rei stones are easy to farm and aren't terribly expensive--I love the Reisenjima system.
    Easy to farm, cheap, nigh impossible to get the augs you want, a friend and I did some rough math, there's probably over 3.5 million different augments on a specific peice of armor with a specific stone, so approximately a 1 in 3.5M chance you're getting the exact augment you want, and so much time is just spent clicking and reviewing and clicking and reviewing, it's painful, it's definitely my least favorite augment system, though obviously it has the best augments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selindrile View Post
    Easy to farm, cheap, nigh impossible to get the augs you want, a friend and I did some rough math, there's probably over 3.5 million different augments on a specific peice of armor with a specific stone, so approximately a 1 in 3.5M chance you're getting the exact augment you want, and so much time is just spent clicking and reviewing and clicking and reviewing, it's painful, it's definitely my least favorite augment system, though obviously it has the best augments.
    I would describe Skirmish as more frustrating to farm, and nigh-impossible to get the augments you want. I've always loathed that a +2 stone can give you the same terrible stat than NQ stone will very likely give you.

    Neither system is likely to give you perfect augments, you'll probably end up with a great DPS piece that has INT+10 on it from Reisenjima. It's still not a bad trade.

    Edit: I get you're saying that Skirmish will allow you to hack away at solely that INT+10 hoping for something more suited to your role, but you're also more likely to spend 200k and get int+1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    I would describe Skirmish as more frustrating to farm, and nigh-impossible to get the augments you want. I've always loathed that a +2 stone can give you the same terrible stat than NQ stone will very likely give you.

    Neither system is likely to give you perfect augments, you'll probably end up with a great DPS piece that has INT+10 on it from Reisenjima. It's still not a bad trade.

    Edit: I get you're saying that Skirmish will allow you to hack away at solely that INT+10 hoping for something more suited to your role, but you're also more likely to spend 200k and get int+1.
    I completely disagree, most everyone I know had extremely high Skirmish2 augments and all 3 targetted stats they want, it costs a bit of money, but it's not hard to farm at all, and the trading is reasonable (though being able to use stones directly from NPC and trading all stones at once is definitely an upgrade), and you can throw a couple stacks at something and almost guarantee a max aug of the item you want, in skirmish, you throw some gil or time at a peice and you're likely to get all 3 stats you want, and can keep hacking away as you said at always improving them. With reisenjimma gear, you get one good aug and then just spend tons and tons of repetitive time/gil failing to get anything that approaches it, or get super frustrated at seeing other stats you want but being unable to take it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kensagaku View Post
    Honestly, I wish they had a combination of both systems. We already have it so each stone favors a slot of augments, so why not just have it only cover that slot? Trade Pellucid stones for acc/atk/macc/matk etc, fern for your "special" augment, and taupe for your stat augment. It'd still have some aspect of randomization to it, but with more plentiful stones and separate slots, you can actually build an item piece more to your specifications. I'm okay throwing a couple hundred Taupe stones to try and get that STR+15 aug, or as many Fern to get a Triple Attack+3, but not when I have to also hope I get a high acc/atk, or heaven forbid Damage+ on weapons too.
    This would be great, if they just changed the way the slots worked a bit, this is exactly the sort of thing I would hope for.
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