Free hand-outs?

[Fae]

I honestly forget to do it most the time b/c things so luck based seem a waste of time to me [In regards to dials]

[Diavolo]

You are joking obviously when you say "there is currency washing ashore so lets give away free RME weapons in Gobby dials" [paraphrased]. You know as well as I do that farming a RME involves a lot of effort, many thousands of currency items.

Of course I was joking about the RME Gobby dial, it was a play on your words to show you how your argument in favor of all these freebies can be applied to RME.

And no, farming RME does not involve a lot of effort, not for everyone - they can be bought. How or where the players get that gil is another story and of no consequence to the topic at hand, but someone with 33+ characters can easily accumulate that gil just by logging in once a day.

So what I'm saying is that many of us have farmed intensively for gear, pre ilvl, and seen it reduced to worthless junk overnight. That is why I can't join you in a big QQ session because some Abjurations or Unity weapons that took you a few weeks to farm, have dropped randomly to other players in lucky (and unusual) Gobby dial rolls.

You are choosing to focus on something that isn't there. There is no point mourning the loss of outdated gear and unless I was possessed while typing up a response I don't think I so much as implied that here.

I'm against the idea of giving away what can be considered end game gear, namely Escha and UNM stuff, because we should all be playing to earn that gear, and when I say playing I don't mean scrolling down a list of goblin dials. The more of that gear and those items that people are receiving as freebies the less time we are collectively spending towards having fun earning it, whether in parties or solo. Why spend the time crafting new zones and new content for us to take part in if we're just going to sit in town and open goblin chests that hand us rewards from those very zones?

Yes, as noted in this thread, some people will be made more aware of UNM gear they didn't know existed and spend time going to take part in that content, but let's be honest here, the number of people who didn't already know Unity Wanted Battles existed are either completely anti-social and/or spend a very little amount of time actually playing - there aren't too many of them. If awareness is an issue, why isn't the game doing more to direct new players to Records of Eminence?

Your Abjuration gear is still 119 lvl, still useful. Why should you feel sad that other people got this gear by being lucky.

I don't - see the 13th post in this thread - it's about these gifts taking away from the game and the time we spend with it. If, like Pixela, you are of the opinion that spending over an hour a day opening goblin chests is more fun to you than actually stepping out of town and playing the game then something is wrong.

[detlef]

I don't - see the 13th post in this thread - it's about these gifts taking away from the game and the time we spend with it. If, like Pixela, you are of the opinion that spending over an hour a day opening goblin chests is more fun to you than actually stepping out of town and playing the game then something is wrong.

If you have a limited amount of time to play, an argument can be made that your time probably is best spent conversing with the daily reward NPC. Almost anything else you do in-game will still be there tomorrow and the day after. But your daily reward can only be obtained on that day. Limited-time availability is one of the primary reasons Ambuscade was so overcrowded. And the reason why weekly and monthly campaigns have such a significant effect on what we choose to do on a given day.

Besides, people like getting free stuff that has a small chance of being good. You mean to tell me that you've never gotten excited for a Mog Bonanza? For a lot of people the anticipation of a possible reward is pleasurable. Having something lucky happen to you feels great, regardless of whether you "earned" it. You might be the abnormal one here.

[Olor]

Besides, people like getting free stuff that has a small chance of being good. You mean to tell me that you've never gotten excited for a Mog Bonanza? For a lot of people the anticipation of a possible reward is pleasurable. Having something lucky happen to you feels great, regardless of whether you "earned" it. You might be the abnormal one here.

This guy acts like if he found a twenty dollar bill he'd throw it in the garbage because he didn't earn it.

The rest of us are going to smile and buy a friend pizza and beer.

[Pixela]

That doesn't quite answer the question, Stompa.

Some players spent months farming the items we're getting for free from the gobbie dials. Given your words about handing out RMEs, would you think it was safe to assume those players aren't happy either?

I spent 12 months making my relic back when you did Dynamis in alliances twice a week and you had to sponsor runs, now you can solo them in a week. Things change, deal with it and stop worrying about others and worry about yourself. If you play this game for prestige then you're about 5 years out of date.

This isn't even anything new, I really don't get the complaining. Did you also hate the mog lottery that gave you 100 million gil 4 years ago?

There is no reason at all why it's bad, it's great and I hope they keep doing it.

[Diavolo]

If you have a limited amount of time to play, an argument can be made that your time probably is best spent conversing with the daily reward NPC. Almost anything else you do in-game will still be there tomorrow and the day after. But your daily reward can only be obtained on that day. Limited-time availability is one of the primary reasons Ambuscade was so overcrowded. And the reason why weekly and monthly campaigns have such a significant effect on what we choose to do on a given day.

Besides, people like getting free stuff that has a small chance of being good. You mean to tell me that you've never gotten excited for a Mog Bonanza? For a lot of people the anticipation of a possible reward is pleasurable. Having something lucky happen to you feels great, regardless of whether you "earned" it. You might be the abnormal one here.

I put the Mog Bonanza in the same boat, except that one actually drains up to 10 of your inventory slots for a month or so. Given the interest shown in the Mounts thread, the usefulness of Trusts at this stage in the game, many of which were only available for a limited time, and the amount of people running around in goofy costumes using style lock I fallback to what I said earlier: you can provide a great number of random rewards via the goblin chests without taking a sledgehammer to FFXI's kneecaps.

This guy acts like if he found a twenty dollar bill he'd throw it in the garbage because he didn't earn it.

The rest of us are going to smile and buy a friend pizza and beer.

Or you could go back to this:

I don't WANT to be given anything for free, I want to earn it, but let's be frank here, I'll spend the 10 seconds or so to check the goblin chest every time I login for my shot at millions of gil or useful piece of gear just like you.

In which case a closer analogy would be that you're begging for the $20. I take it begrudgingly.

I spent 12 months making my relic back when you did Dynamis in alliances twice a week and you had to sponsor runs, now you can solo them in a week. Things change, deal with it and stop worrying about others and worry about yourself. If you play this game for prestige then you're about 5 years out of date.

Careful, the faults and personality traits we can’t stand in other people are often traits of our own personality.

[Shirai]

Ok, it's high time to step away from that soap box you're standing on. You induldge in the same "sin" as the rest of us, those are your own words.
No, don't give us this "I'm doing this against my will" speech, the game won't stop you from playing it if you don't open your box or if you do not spend your log in points and we're not forcing you either.

Like us, you choose to open the box, you choose to spend the log in points and you choose to participate in Bonanza.
You're not against it, and now there's nothing left to convince us that you are. You're the same as us, a gambler, and it's time that you accept that fact.

[Diavolo]

Like us, you choose to open the box, you choose to spend the log in points and you choose to participate in Bonanza.
You're not against it, and now there's nothing left to convince us that you are. You're the same as us, a gambler, and it's time that you accept that fact.

The difference is that some of you are claiming it is THE reason you are still playing. In case you aren't aware of it yet, many of us are playing on servers that look more like ghost towns for most of the day and making it a point to attract people who have no interest taking part in the world isn't helping.

[Shirai]

So what?! If that is the reason they're still playing, let them!
They are also part of the reason that you and them and me are still able to play and enjoy this game. It's also their subscription that keeps this game going.

And if you think your world is so bad, move to a more populated one. It's what all the cool kids do these days.

[Ketaru]

All of the UNM materials have crashed hard in price, so it does effect the economy. Look at that person who spends a lot of RL money and time with all those mules just to do this campaign lol. I can't believe people would do that just for UNM, you realize how easy to kill most of these are?

If you're worried about the economy, I hope you extend your opposition to double accolades, double unity coffer drops, double personal loot from Escha NMs, and double personal REM drops from high tier battlefields. Those have done more to affect the prices of highly coveted consumables than any once-per-day freebie box ever would.

With the fervor in this thread, as well as the name, you'd think thread was about social welfare programs or something.