Free hand-outs?

[Pixela]

Also, I find the claim that people are paying $13/month or more for content IDs solely to roll the dice at the goblin dials you yourself claim give random junk 99% of the time a bit much. Lots of people pay for multiple accounts, myself included, but since the goblin dials and login points started I have yet to come across a single person claiming that was the reason they were doing it. Does anyone here do that?

If you are paying $13/month to roll the dice on gear from the goblin dial and enjoy it, that's fine. As you know, I'm all for providing options. If you believe charging people $13/month to roll the dice at the goblin dial is a good way to encourage people to return/subscribe to a long running MMORPG like Final Fantasy XI then I will vehemently disagree.

I do just that, as I've already said. I have capped character slots for these events, I enjoy doing them every day as a chance to scratch that lottery card to get something nice. I also know that a ton of other people do the same on Asura, I know because there is an army of level 1 characters with ?? next to their name checking that box every day. It's a zerg rush at jp midnight.

The gobbie boxes are a great addition, I'm really glad they added it and I can genuinely say that I probably would of left and gone back to one of my other mmorpg titles by now if not for the few nice items I have obtained from them, mainly because they gave me a nice item at a point when I was bored and had nothing I could do because my gear isn't good enough and the "community" sucks. They do the most important thing they were added to do, give casual players an incentive to log-in every day. For an mmo the main way you keep people playing is to keep them coming every day to keep the addiction in check, when people start skipping days they start losing the addiction.

I've played a lot of these games and most of them have some system that makes you log-in every day, this is the one FFXI chose.

If you don't like it then that's fine, you don't have to do it. You lose nothing from not doing it because you can get whatever you want anyway, it's not really for you as such because you're already heavily invested and here to stay. You have reason enough to log-in, you have the ffxi world as your oyster.

End of the day, you are a player telling the devs you don't like an incredibly popular piece of content. These are people that have all the server logs of everything, this is their job and you're back seat driving telling them that all these players who enjoy it are wrong and they should remove it because you know better than them.

[Diavolo]

I do just that, as I've already said. I have capped character slots for these events, I enjoy doing them every day as a chance to scratch that lottery card to get something nice. I also know that a ton of other people do the same on Asura, I know because there is an army of level 1 characters with ?? next to their name checking that box every day. It's a zerg rush at jp midnight.

You pay for 33 characters or more across 3 content IDs, spend time logging into all of them daily for login points/Goblin chests, and you know for a fact there are lots of other people on Asura doing the same? You've painted quite a picture here when paired with the comments about your unwillingness to play with others (save for a friend).

Asura is still an active server and you likely already know like-minded individuals there, some of whom probably also post here. I don't see why you couldn't obtain all the gear you've already received from the goblin chests and far more teaming up with a few other people in a social setting. I mean, you're likely spending an hour everyday just cycling through all your characters.

The gobbie boxes are a great addition, I'm really glad they added it and I can genuinely say that I probably would of left and gone back to one of my other mmorpg titles by now if not for the few nice items I have obtained from them, mainly because they gave me a nice item at a point when I was bored and had nothing I could do because my gear isn't good enough and the "community" sucks.

...says the person that doesn't play with others?

FFXI has a strong community to this day, even on the smaller servers. My time on Asura was limited, but I accomplished a great deal in a very short amount of time with people I had only just come to meet there. I'd have made it my permanent home if not for some good friends and longtime acquaintances still playing on Cerberus. Their interest in the game has sharply declined as of late, so maybe I'll see you soon enough.

If you don't like it then that's fine, you don't have to do it. You lose nothing from not doing it because you can get whatever you want anyway, it's not really for you as such because you're already heavily invested and here to stay. You have reason enough to log-in, you have the ffxi world as your oyster.

We all do. Take advantage of it.

End of the day, you are a player telling the devs you don't like an incredibly popular piece of content. These are people that have all the server logs of everything, this is their job and you're back seat driving telling them that all these players who enjoy it are wrong and they should remove it because you know better than them.

While I think you may be overestimating the development team's understanding of the day to day workings of their worlds, that's not quite what I've been saying.

[Diavolo]

I disagree with you that it is anyone's business if Person X really enjoys Logins and Gobby Dials. It is nobody else's business! It really doesn't affect the economy, or LS events, or anything. The effects are tiny. Nobody is stopping you from fighting Tumult with your LS mates. I think it is a bit wrong for you to say that some person who enjoys spinning Gobby Dials and doing Login Events is going to destroy your LS Tumult Event by somehow undermining the marketplace and making LS members unwilling to join in. I would say that is ridiculous!

It can and does affect the economy, event participation and such, to wildly varying degrees. Hand a crafter a Kupo Shield and see what that does to cursed gear prices on your server.

[Angemon]

All of the UNM materials have crashed hard in price, so it does effect the economy. Look at that person who spends a lot of RL money and time with all those mules just to do this campaign lol. I can't believe people would do that just for UNM, you realize how easy to kill most of these are? The only hard one is the PW2 and he can be beaten with a party of 6~8 well geared players. The drops aren't even the best anyway.

[Pixela]

I gotta be honest in that I've lost interest arguing with you in this pointless back and fourth, I simply wanted to point out that a large part of why I play are these log-in events (since you asked) and they are the reason I pay +$20 to $30 more than I would normally pay on a monthly basis.

Hopefully next months will be event better, more AB# keys would be great. Jovian body I got last month made me really happy.

[Pixela]

All of the UNM materials have crashed hard in price, so it does effect the economy. Look at that person who spends a lot of RL money and time with all those mules just to do this campaign lol. I can't believe people would do that just for UNM, you realize how easy to kill most of these are? The only hard one is the PW2 and he can be beaten with a party of 6~8 well geared players. The drops aren't even the best anyway.

The prices will go back up in a month after the event ends, go do voidwatch and farm pouches maybe?

It's money well spent to me honestly, I enjoy it greatly. You play the game how you want to play it and I'll play it how I want to. If that bothers you, sad day for you.

[Olor]

I love the campaigns they definitely keep me subbed when I would otherwise let it drop.

[detlef]

Do people do Unity for gil? Is that really something we have to worry about?

[Olor]

Do people do Unity for gil? Is that really something we have to worry about?

If they did, you'd expect more people to do unity.

I am actually excited to see if some of the mats I need to upgrade an item I got from the gobbie box are now available for sale... since it was an NM that only drops generally meh items and is a cactaur which, lol, ain't nobody got time for that.

[Pixela]

Do people do Unity for gil? Is that really something we have to worry about?

Yeah but there are far better ways to make gil, not sure why anyone would bother doing it for gil outside of double drop.