Availability of HMPs, Riftcinders, Riftdross

[Ulth]

I just had a super productive day in Vana'diel today. I beat Qilin 48 times and got no heavy metal pouches. Traded cells for each kill and everything.

[Elexia]

I just had a super productive day in Vana'diel today.

Same - Finished off my crafting goal and made about 8mil.

[Sapphires]

I just had a super productive day in Vana'diel today. I beat Qilin 48 times and got no heavy metal pouches. Traded cells for each kill and everything.

Thats some extraordinarily bad luck, is your blue+red alignment 550% at the end? we always use rubi+cobalt and get at least 5 items from the pyxis.

I did 14x6 Aellos yesterday - a party of 4 LS players+2trusts and we got 21 pouches which comes out to a 1 in 16 droprate which is 6.25% which is extremely close to the ffxidb stats of 6% collected for uptala/qilin/aello on heavy metal pouches.

So there is either a drop penalty for a pure soloist if you arent doing it with others, or you are missing a KI thats preventing you from being 550% alignment with cells, or you had some bad luck, or qilin is bugged (everyone I know farms uptala or aello, so i have no data on qilin farming during the campaign)

[Ulth]

I only use two cells instead of three because of how TH can't take alignment over 550% which is another upsetting thing about VW, so mine is more like 540% for red and blue, but yeah I have the oddest luck with VW. During this event I've gotten like 10 pouches yet against all odds somehow got a Coruscanti. It's annoying that luck is so dependent on making an empy. It makes me feel like I should just make the gil and buy them but that is a pretty unrewarding feeling. Even if I were to buy them there is still the problem of supply as there is not enough on the auction house, and it will probably get worst with the upcoming update.

[Olor]

Pretty sure he still plays, unless that's another Kingfury I'm seeing around. Probably just doesn't draw portraits for people anymore. Which is understandable, the list of people wanting one from him is like a mile long. It must get tiring.

Ah, I just thought he wasn't playing since he used to post on the boards but doesn't anymore. I just assumed that meant he was gone.

[detlef]

Heavy Metal Pouches are a lot like t1 synths in that they are common enough that you get your hopes up but rare enough that you can have depressing streaks between good results. 1/16 load rate will mess with you.

Also Pulse weapons should load more often but that's neither here nor there.

[Ulth]

Yeah but generally you only need a t1 synth once, though in the case of the new abjuration you need it twice in a row, but the problem is I need something like 150 heavy metal pouches right?

[detlef]

Yeah but generally you only need a t1 synth once, though in the case of the new abjuration you need it twice in a row, but the problem is I need something like 150 heavy metal pouches right?

I was just making the comparison that a 1/16 load rate is high enough that you expect to see something but low enough that you can be on the bad end of some brutal streaks.

[Sapphires]

Akvan / Kaggen / Pil will drop single metals about 1 in 3 times which can feel a bit more satisfying and consistent, but over the long run gives less metal per stone+time spent.
I'd suggest sticking with Qilin / Aello / Uptala if you are after metal though and accept its really streaky and focus on your long term average per 100 kills.

In general focused farming for RMEs for its specific currency to the exclusion of other activities to finish it has never been really advisable, and its a recipe for burning out on the game.

All my mythics for example were funded with drops from doing dynamis and voidwatch and selling those drops to buy alexandrite to supplement the progress from also running salvage.
When I made my 119 armageddon I used dynamis+salvage drops to fund the dross+hmp acquisition , and maintain a variety of activities to avoid burning out.

[Kincard]

Is there any particular reason you guys stick to Qilin and co? Only reason I'd do them is if I wanted to simultaneously try my luck at a spiffy lockstyle item, otherwise as far as I know Botulus/Morta are still the best average value per pop, even if you felt like playing it safe and spent a few void clusters on them.