PS2 Devkits: Are the Devs still keeping an eye out for more machinery?

[Alhanelem]

Also, let's think about this: SE gambles $10,000 on buying ten broken dev kits

If you try to push a $10k *gamble* on your company's corporate beancounters, please record a video of their laughter so we can all see it.

[Jile]

XI, when it was new, was a much bigger risk for its time, 10k is chump change.

Bottom line, there are absolutely dev kits out there to be had, SE doesn't want them regardless of condition, they want to step back from XI as an amazing success story.

While many people like myself would likely play XI a second decade, SE' bean-counters don't see a long term profitability or they wouldn't keep trying to "end" XI. Abyssea was the end... No, wait, now its rhapsodies..... We'll see in time if this is the "end" or just another pause.

[Alhanelem]

XI, when it was new, was a much bigger risk for its time, 10k is chump change.

Bottom line, there are absolutely dev kits out there to be had, SE doesn't want them regardless of condition, they want to step back from XI as an amazing success story.

While many people like myself would likely play XI a second decade, SE' bean-counters don't see a long term profitability or they wouldn't keep trying to "end" XI. Abyssea was the end... No, wait, now its rhapsodies..... We'll see in time if this is the "end" or just another pause.

We already explained why a corporation like SE wouldn't buy quesitonable hardware on ebay. Few companies like them would if any. It has everything to do with policies and nothing to do with want.

[Jile]

It's more about saving face than policies. They wont take a risk if there is a potential to lose face.

Regardless, our opinions won't effect when XI goes offline. Our pocketbooks perhaps but I'm not opening 20,000 accounts to keep them motivated lol.

[Zarchery]

Bottom line, there are absolutely dev kits out there to be had, SE doesn't want them regardless of condition, they want to step back from XI as an amazing success story.

If you have any actual evidence for this assumption. Please produce it. The original poster produced a link to ONE development kit. On a purely grammatical level, your assertion that there are dev kits out there is not even backed up.

[Billnes]

If you try to push a $10k *gamble* on your company's corporate beancounters, please record a video of their laughter so we can all see it.

That's my point. Thank you for reinforcing my point. Obviously, I wouldn't expect the bean counters at SE to just hand over $10,000. For employees to use, gambling on second-hand dev tools off of eBay?? Also, in the original eBay auction found by Rustic, where's all the accessories that go along with the base unit? Auction says power cable and a keyboard - big deal. Where's the Audio/Visual cable that connects the dev kit to the preview monitor and the monitor itself?? Purchase a potential pile of scrap without at least some usable accessories? No way.

[Jile]

If you have any actual evidence for this assumption. Please produce it. The original poster produced a link to ONE development kit. On a purely grammatical level, your assertion that there are dev kits out there is not even backed up.

While I can't hand you links as I sit posting in a waiting room lobby, like others, I've seen sellers post them on everything from Craigslist to eBay and gaming boards over the last year or two but since I don't have the links and even if I did I'd be told since its not from reputable sources, they are irrelevant I'll just move on so people can say I'm wrong, they're right and regardless nothing would motivate SE to buy them. Lovely circle. So by all means, give me the obligatory insults since I don't have "proof" of previous sales etc.

[Zarchery]

While I can't hand you links as I sit posting in a waiting room lobby, like others, I've seen sellers post them on everything from Craigslist to eBay and gaming boards over the last year or two but since I don't have the links and even if I did I'd be told since its not from reputable sources, they are irrelevant I'll just move on so people can say I'm wrong, they're right and regardless nothing would motivate SE to buy them. Lovely circle. So by all means, give me the obligatory insults since I don't have "proof" of previous sales etc.

So then you DON'T have proof.

The fact that you have to look in a dozen different web sites for second hand versions of this critical tool proves my point. Serious businesses don't go scrounging through junkyards for secondhand equipment. That's why, say, prisons don't have black and white TVs. They stopped selling those decades ago. The Department of Corrections would have to go scrounging through yard sales and auction sites.

[Billnes]

<< SNIP! >> Serious businesses don't go scrounging through junkyards for secondhand equipment. << SNIP! >>

ORLY now?? What about Gas Monkey Garage?? Richard Rawlings and Aaron Kaufman scour junkyards all the time. They're not a legitimate business? For the money they make just on Appearance Fees from Discovery Communications, I'd take a walk through a junkyard. Just to look at weathered old cars & assorted parts? Sounds like a good gig to me.

[Alhanelem]

That's my point. Thank you for reinforcing my point. Obviously, I wouldn't expect the bean counters at SE to just hand over $10,000. For employees to use, gambling on second-hand dev tools off of eBay?? Also, in the original eBay auction found by Rustic, where's all the accessories that go along with the base unit? Auction says power cable and a keyboard - big deal. Where's the Audio/Visual cable that connects the dev kit to the preview monitor and the monitor itself?? Purchase a potential pile of scrap without at least some usable accessories? No way.

I never said they *shouldn't* consider these kinds of options, I only explained why they probably won't/aren't/haven't considered them.