Please make FFXI f2p!

[vienne]

f2p, no thanks. A lower sub i'd support after november. Serverss need maintenance, they still need devs for bugs and tweaks, they need mods for these forum and GM's in game, they need to pay the cleaning lady that does the office too. I'm ok with paying for this basic service rather then paying in game for stupid cosmetics or to give people the ability to buy progression.

[Castanica]

f2p, no thanks. A lower sub i'd support after november. Serverss need maintenance, they still need devs for bugs and tweaks, they need mods for these forum and GM's in game, they need to pay the cleaning lady that does the office too. I'm ok with paying for this basic service rather then paying in game for stupid cosmetics or to give people the ability to buy progression.

What do you have against f2p? You would prefer the game to die?

My guess is that you have never actually played a f2p game and have wild ideas of exactly what that entails.

[vienne]

What do you have against f2p? You would prefer the game to die?

My guess is that you have never actually played a f2p game and have wild ideas of exactly what that entails.

I have played GW2 (which yes its not totally f2p) Aion, Rift, I have a pretty good idea about what f2p is and i dont like the concept. This game will not die any slower with going f2p.

[Castanica]

I have played GW2 (which yes its not totally f2p) Aion, Rift, I have a pretty good idea about what f2p is and i dont like the concept. This game will not die any slower with going f2p.

F2p saved numerous games that would of otherwise died.

The funeral for FFXi has been given a date, quite why you would rather a game die than go f2p is beyond me.

[vienne]

F2p saved numerous games that would of otherwise died.

The funeral for FFXi has been given a date, quite why you would rather a game die than go f2p is beyond me.

f2p has saved numerous young games with no loyal playerbase, while ffxi has 13 years on the counter. Which it wouldnt have if not for a loyal playerbase. You are speculating about the soon to be end of ffxi which is not for anytime soon. SE will not allow ffxi to go f2p as long more lemons can be squeezed. This topic has been brought up numerous times, never has any mod or dev given a reaction on this, your wish is highly unlikely. I did say i'm OK with a lower subscription fee after november.

[Castanica]

f2p has saved numerous young games with no loyal playerbase, while ffxi has 13 years on the counter. Which it wouldnt have if not for a loyal playerbase. You are speculating about the soon to be end of ffxi which is not for anytime soon. SE will not allow ffxi to go f2p as long more lemons can be squeezed. This topic has been brought up numerous times, never has any mod or dev given a reaction on this, your wish is highly unlikely. I did say i'm OK with a lower subscription fee after november.

Go look up Everquest 1.

I would play this game and spend money if it was f2p, I won't pay a subscription for a game that gets no updates.

I'm playing it now, only because it's free.

As I said, the funeral date has been given. November.

[Rainehx]

The problem with this is that most of the players are happy with the system, the players that have subbed for 10+ years like and enjoy the game as is.
These players have sustained the game thought the bad times, so to make the jump to a f2p system where people can buy progress is going to upset a lot of people, they will
likely lose that part of the player base, while yes attracting those more akin to the f2p system.

Id really hope SE would rather a consistent income and security from subs they know will come as in times past. rather than a bunch of people who will come
along sink a little money in it on month one and either leave with no real investment to stay or possibly not buying anything again.

But who knows, its like Stompa said, this is a classic game, people do enjoy it as is as many did when the updates had stoped previously
But SE foolishly catered for those who demanded everything easy and on a plate, which drove away a lot of people, and now that the updates are stopping
all those who demanded everything was given to them will leave, they cant have their new easy to obtain shinny s every month.

So I really do hope SE learned and wont add f2p and screw over their current player base, because imo it will die even faster if they do.

[Castanica]

The problem with this is that most of the players are happy with the system, the players that have subbed for 10+ years like and enjoy the game as is.
These players have sustained the game thought the bad times, so to make the jump to a f2p system where people can buy progress is going to upset a lot of people, they will
likely lose that part of the player base, while yes attracting those more akin to the f2p system.

Id really hope SE would rather a consistent income and security from subs they know will come as in times past. rather than a bunch of people who will come
along sink a little money in it on month one and either leave with no real investment to stay or possibly not buying anything again.

But who knows, its like Stompa said, this is a classic game, people do enjoy it as is as many did when the updates had stoped previously
But SE foolishly catered for those who demanded everything easy and on a plate, which drove away a lot of people, and now that the updates are stopping
all those who demanded everything was given to them will leave, they cant have their new easy to obtain shinny s every month.

So I really do hope SE learned and wont add f2p and screw over their current player base, because imo it will die even faster if they do.

The current player numbers aren't good enough, there aren't enough of them. That's why they are abandoning the game right?

If the players that stick around want a rapid decline after November followed by a swift death you will get your wish in 2016, Square have shown they only care about profits.

People that actually don't want to see the game die and be gone forever will hopefully have a more sensible view when they see the player numbers on November the 2nd.

[Allestra]

The problem with this is that most of the players are happy with the system, the players that have subbed for 10+ years like and enjoy the game as is.
These players have sustained the game thought the bad times, so to make the jump to a f2p system where people can buy progress is going to upset a lot of people, they will
likely lose that part of the player base, while yes attracting those more akin to the f2p system.

Id really hope SE would rather a consistent income and security from subs they know will come as in times past. rather than a bunch of people who will come
along sink a little money in it on month one and either leave with no real investment to stay or possibly not buying anything again.

But who knows, its like Stompa said, this is a classic game, people do enjoy it as is as many did when the updates had stoped previously
But SE foolishly catered for those who demanded everything easy and on a plate, which drove away a lot of people, and now that the updates are stopping
all those who demanded everything was given to them will leave, they cant have their new easy to obtain shinny s every month.

So I really do hope SE learned and wont add f2p and screw over their current player base, because imo it will die even faster if they do.

ERRR...people were leaving ffxi many mayyyyy years ago, "catering" had absolutely nothing to do with
much of the player loss, however, no communiction from SE, and a stagnant ,inflexible attitude certainly did!

All the things they have changed especially the QoL changes should have been implemented
yearssssss ago before so many had left.

As for ftp?...I too have played and stayed subbed continually for over the 10yr mark to ffxi.
I see nothing wrong with any ftp games that I also play, nothing!

BUT those ftp games still evolve, IF ffxi has no new content past Nov (and tbh Im not sure if thats true
or not), but if there is nothing new after, then even ftp doesnt make any sense to me.

A reduction in fees , yes, but ftp would have to offer something worth buying to make any money initially and continually.
I just cant see that happening in fxi.

Even if we could buy all the best gear and all the best weapons...kk...then what? lol
Stand around in jeuno looking good....or go kill everything in the game over and over and over for....what exactly?
The "shelf life" of any game that is again soon to be stagnant is short if theres nothing to look forward to!!

I do think a sub reduction is realistic and fair.

As much as I like ftp games (as well as sub based games), ffxi just has nothing to offer if the
game itself has no more content added in which to enjoy the purchases.

At any rate its up to SE, the sub fees for me arent an issue really but once I have achieved my personal goals thenit will be time to say goodbye. FFXI has been a wonderful game over the years, enjoy it more now then before tbh.

But if nothing is ever added (and i dont mean the occasional spell change, thats not enough)then
the end is just...reality... ftp/sub/ wont save it.

[Runespider]

Pretty sure the mobile version will be F2P with microtransactions because one of the biggest F2P mmo companies is running it.

ERRR...people were leaving ffxi many mayyyyy years ago, "catering" had absolutely nothing to do with
much of the player loss, however, no communiction from SE, and a stagnant ,inflexible attitude certainly did!

All the things they have changed especially the QoL changes should have been implemented
yearssssss ago before so many had left.

As for ftp?...I too have played and stayed subbed continually for over the 10yr mark to ffxi.
I see nothing wrong with any ftp games that I also play, nothing!

BUT those ftp games still evolve, IF ffxi has no new content past Nov (and tbh Im not sure if thats true
or not), but if there is nothing new after, then even ftp doesnt make any sense to me.

A reduction in fees , yes, but ftp would have to offer something worth buying to make any money initially and continually.
I just cant see that happening in fxi.

Even if we could buy all the best gear and all the best weapons...kk...then what? lol
Stand around in jeuno looking good....or go kill everything in the game over and over and over for....what exactly?
The "shelf life" of any game that is again soon to be stagnant is short if theres nothing to look forward to!!

I do think a sub reduction is realistic and fair.

As much as I like ftp games (as well as sub based games), ffxi just has nothing to offer if the
game itself has no more content added in which to enjoy the purchases.

At any rate its up to SE, the sub fees for me arent an issue really but once I have achieved my personal goals thenit will be time to say goodbye. FFXI has been a wonderful game over the years, enjoy it more now then before tbh.

But if nothing is ever added (and i dont mean the occasional spell change, thats not enough)then
the end is just...reality... ftp/sub/ wont save it.

I agree, however I think the point of a free/hybrid/cheaper sub is to make the game more financially viable so that Square can start adding content again. They are stopping updates because they don't see it as making enough money as they warrant worthwhile.