Auction House - Remove 7 item listing cap

[Yarly]

It is true though. I am not sure if it was soley on ps2 limtatiosn but it has to do with something with server load bowing to the ps2 that could only handle 7 items or something.

I know this wow lets you put up unlimited items on AH so the only reason SE has the cap has to do with some limtation and most liky related to ps2 since WoW is comp only

Well, server load shouldn't have anything to do with PS2 problems. Unless the FFXI servers are hosted on PS2... then it all makes sense.

Otherwise your basis of PS2 limitation is based purely on speculation and circumstantial evidence. There's nothing wrong with that, though, because that's one step closer to proving it.

The best thing would just be for a dev to step in and say YES/NO the PS2 is the limiting factor of the AH.

ON topic:

There needs to be an arbitrary cap to AH slots. Did you people forget that SE is a business?

How many of you have mules that you send stuff to sell because of the current system? How many of you wouldn't need those mules anymore if there wasn't a cap? If even ONE person cancels an ID that's a loss of money. They aren't going to GAIN money from lifting the cap, and you aren't going to quit if the cap isn't completely removed.

The compromise would be to increase the cap, this way they minimize their loss in revenue from people no longer needing AH mules and they keep people happy with more AH slots.

[Zyeriis]

Well, server load shouldn't have anything to do with PS2 problems. Unless the FFXI servers are hosted on PS2... then it all makes sense.

Otherwise your basis of PS2 limitation is based purely on speculation and circumstantial evidence. There's nothing wrong with that, though, because that's one step closer to proving it.

The best thing would just be for a dev to step in and say YES/NO the PS2 is the limiting factor of the AH.

On this case, it was definently stated by the FFXI dev team at some point. I don't remember the exact time and location but, it was definently a response they gave regarding increasing the number of items you can have up at any time on the auction house.

^ The above was stated prior to your post.

[Yarly]

^ The above was stated prior to your post.

I've googled and skimmed the dev panels for 2006 2007 2008 and vanafest 2010. The only thing regarding auction houses was a concern for lack of low level gear up on the AH. So far, nothing. All the replies I got were just "i saw it but i dunno where" or "i'm too lazy to look it up" and that doesn't work too well when trying to prove something to the general public. I did the work, and I looked at the websites and searched forums.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying you're LYING until I see proof. I'm just asking for source and even after trying to look for the source myself, I can't find it. How can you expect people to believe you when you shoot down anyone who's trying to believe you?

Also, you made that post while I was writing it. I read your post after I pressed reply. Just like I'm sure there will be posts after Alterin's when I finish this post.

I want to believe!

Damn, can't post pics

[Zyeriis]

I've googled and skimmed the dev panels for 2006 2007 2008 and vanafest 2010. The only thing regarding auction houses was a concern for lack of low level gear up on the AH. So far, nothing. All the replies I got were just "i saw it but i dunno where" or "i'm too lazy to look it up" and that doesn't work too well when trying to prove something to the general public. I did the work, and I looked at the websites and searched forums.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying you're LYING until I see proof. I'm just asking for source and even after trying to look for the source myself, I can't find it. How can you expect people to believe you when you shoot down anyone who's trying to believe you?

Also, you made that post while I was writing it. I read your post after I pressed reply. Just like I'm sure there will be posts after Alterin's when I finish this post.

I want to believe!

Damn, can't post pics

I only added that text after the quotes because of the inability to post unless you meet a certain amount of characters (quotes don't count toward this). I guess I should've said something else but, that's irrelevant. Anyway, you can't really expect us to go through years of notes to find that one single instance where they mentioned that the ps2 was part of the reason, especially not for such a miniscule point, can you? It is better to just take this as a truth (that they said it, not that what they said was the full scope of the problem) seeing as multiple people are claiming that it was said and that they read it. It may have even been a translation error or something but, again, irrelevant. One question out of years of questions isn't easy to find, and isn't really worth the effort to try and do so (not even close).

As for Expectations is it: Harder to believe what multiple people have claimed they witnessed or Harder to sift through hundreds of questions/pages to find the source?

[Yarly]

As for Expectations is it: Harder to believe what multiple people have claimed they witnessed or Harder to sift through hundreds of questions/pages to find the source?

"ps2 limitations" has been overused so much that it has become a ffxi community meme, it is the new "working as intended"...

Unfortunately, because what GlobalVariable says is absolutely true. One has to take ps2 limitations statements with a grain of salt. Most people still think zone reskinning is due to PS2 limitations and that shows how unwilling the public is to learn the truth instead of just throwing ps2 limitations out as a blanket statement. I do, however, understand the fact that people often feel the need to place the blame on something/someone for peace of mind so I do not blame them.

Also, by your logic, if enough people claim to say it's not due to ps2 limitations everyone should believe that instead. Which of course is not a good thing.

That JPButton link was pretty cool, it's a shame it didn't say why the AH limit was dropped to 7. This debate would have ended promptly. Thanks Kaida

[Zyeriis]

Unfortunately, because what GlobalVariable says is absolutely true. One has to take ps2 limitations statements with a grain of salt. Most people still think zone reskinning is due to PS2 limitations and that shows how unwilling the public is to learn the truth instead of just throwing ps2 limitations out as a blanket statement. I do, however, understand the fact that people often feel the need to place the blame on something/someone for peace of mind so I do not blame them.

Also, by your logic, if enough people claim to say it's not due to ps2 limitations everyone should believe that instead. Which of course is not a good thing.

That JPButton link was pretty cool, it's a shame it didn't say why the AH limit was dropped to 7. This debate would have ended promptly. Thanks Kaida

Hmm, let me put this another way: the "ps2 limitations" thing clearly came from somewhere. This was one such moment that lead to the overuse of "ps2 limitations". I won't deny the possibility of what you said but, some of us remember when the "ps2 limitations" "meme" started. This very topic is one of it's origins.

[Yarly]

Hmm, let me put this another way: the "ps2 limitations" thing clearly came from somewhere. This was one such moment that lead to the overuse of "ps2 limitations". I won't deny the possibility of what you said but, some of us remember when the "ps2 limitations" "meme" started. This very topic is one of it's origins.

The earliest memory I have for PS2 limitations excuse was for inventory spaces. People wanted more and more and SE kept saying we can't, PS2 limits us. Then they kept giving us gobbie bags to increase our inventory, wtf? ... After all the PS2 limitation crap they tossed at us from NA release, they said 80 was the actual limit back in Nov2008 (link) and thus came the satchel and (now) sack...

Of course, just because it's MY earliest memory from since I started playing back in Nov2003 doesn't make it the earliest instance of PS2 limitations.