Useless spells

[Protey]

Didn't you say earlier you easily cut though very/incredibly toughs with your Red Mage melee without using distract or any accuracy support trusts? Now suddenly you are saying we have accuracy issues? I have a hard time understanding your complaints.

Anyway: I do half way agree with you here (though your previous posts seem to conflict with your current one) that Red Mages have a disadvantage in terms of accuracy when compared to melee jobs due to our lower rank. Where we disagree is you see this as a problem and I don't really. Because in the end this job is - a support mage- and not a melee class. And if you gear appropriately and make the needed sacrifices it is possible to overcome our accuracy issues. So it's a problem you can easily solve.

It appears you think we should have great shield skill too now as well. It seems you want everything. But we already have excellent defense potential so giving us a high shield skill would make us too powerful. That is an advantage Paladins have and need to keep.

To be honest, the greatest impediment to Red Mage melee is not our accuracy. It's not our En Spells II. Nor is it our lower rank in sword. It is simply put that our role in combat is that of support - and that is where we are expected to perform to our fullest and at times melee can complicate our ability to do this. So how well we can melee depends almost entirely on the situation and how well balanced our current group is.

Part of what makes a Red Mage so powerful is it can adapt to pitch-hit for many different roles in a variety of different situations. And from what I have seen, they are better at this than any other job.

you agreed with what I said in the other thread that RDM is a jack-of-all-trades, but then you go and say this. RDM is NOT just a support class. It is ALL classes. We can melee, tank, cure, enhance, enfeeble.... all at the same time!

[Dale]

you agreed with what I said in the other thread that RDM is a jack-of-all-trades, but then you go and say this. RDM is NOT just a support class. It is ALL classes. We can melee, tank, cure, enhance, enfeeble.... all at the same time!

That's because I think you can describe Red Mage as a support class and still recognize it as a jack of all trades. To me these two descriptions don't conflict. Because in many ways that's how a Red Mage offers support to their group, by applying their jack of all trades potential and strengthening the group where it matters most.

So I don't think we disagree. I just use the term support more broadly than you would.

But in any case, my point in the post you quoted was that because of the Red Mage's versatility I feel a lower rank in sword is justified.