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    Player Effilil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodnon View Post
    You're still not using proper gear, nor putting effort into properly using it. Congrats, you're still crap. A person with skill and gear is still going to run circles around you.
    not really...I have crap gear on blm and have been told by blm with the gear and skill that I'm better than they are....and if you actually research and plan your gear out, you'll find that a good balanced gear set can be 10000 times better than the swap gear sets over the longer run
    what it comes down to is simply that my opinion is different from yours and you simply think that yours is right...there are as many ways to play as there are players, and not one agrees with any other 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Effilil View Post
    you'll find that a good balanced gear set can be 10000 times better than the swap gear sets over the longer run
    No, you'll find your damage to be less, your mana drain be faster, the need to rest be more often and for longer times. This isn't an opinion, this is factual. Two people of equal skill, one min/maxes their gear, the other doesn't, who will do more damage, have better buffs, and be able to perform better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodnon View Post
    No, you'll find your damage to be less, your mana drain be faster, the need to rest be more often and for longer times. This isn't an opinion, this is factual. Two people of equal skill, one min/maxes their gear, the other doesn't, who will do more damage, have better buffs, and be able to perform better?
    and who will pull agro and die? there is such a thing as hate control, and managing that can be more important than damage when you're a mage with low hp and crap def (and don't tell me mage gear gives good def or eva, because it doesn't) and I hear people complaining all the time that the main assist can't keep hate because the mages pull hate off them with every cast

    and truthfully? this started as a thread seeking legitamit advice from other players, not as a thread about what gear you should or shouldn't use or how you should play the game....so let's leave this argument with 1 fact
    I CHOOSE to play in a different way than YOU.
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    All I hear is "blah blah. Flame flame." Go back to OP. I have a good friend that likes to solo kill Treants in Aby-Altep. Rest I'll wiki for mobs that con EP. If I'm not in Aby and I want to conserve MP, I'll carby kill till it's avatar-appropiate enough to kill. I'm collecting Geodes along the way.
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    Frodnon,

    It isn't worth arguing over it. She's shown her view (be it appropriate or not, personally not gear swaping to optimize any job is stupid) and you've shown yours.

    As for the OP The staves would be nice to have but their value is small in comparison what that space can be used for. Though if you don't have a Soulscourge or Bahamut's Staff then those staves would be next best option in my view.
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    I'm gonna jump in on this and flat out state that Alexandrite and MAYBE the skins from sara, tinnin, etc are the only real hurdle to Mythic. If you'd been playing the game even marginally for its content, you should have most of the points from nyzul and a lions share of ichor from Einherjar. Example, I've bought 5(five) pieces of Ein gear, not including crafting mats, and still have 112k ichor. I do admit I did nyzul a way lot more than most people, thus why I have 127k tokens in that, but its still VERY easy to farm tokens in there with the right setup. Redoing assaults is not in any way difficult, thats just a time sink, flat out.

    Its ALWAYS been about alexandrites. If they lowered/removed alex's, I'd most likely have a mythic <50 days after they announced it. Would just have to redo assaults.
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    Hi there, I'm currently going for Suraya's Staff +2 (Light Affinity: Avatar Perpetuation -6/Blood Pact delay -10), yes this is the perpetuation reducer staff for carby. Why? 1 'cause I'm sick of wearing those goofy fugly looking mittens for carby lol, and 2 because there are way better hand gear with good stats than 14 mp or whatever mp carby mitts have AND I'm a meleer and the dmg is higher and a few more reasons.

    So anyways, I'm gonna start on the trials where you gotta let your avatar deal the finishing blow and I wanna know, what is the easiest way to kill 200 dhamels? The bibiki bay ones are gonna take forever the way carby deals damage so any other suggestions would help. And yeah I've thought about lvl sync but I really don't have that many friends much less will I have the chance to sync to anyone. Sounds like a lost case huh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vangoh View Post
    Hi there, I'm currently going for Suraya's Staff +2 (Light Affinity: Avatar Perpetuation -6/Blood Pact delay -10), yes this is the perpetuation reducer staff for carby. Why? 1 'cause I'm sick of wearing those goofy fugly looking mittens for carby lol, and 2 because there are way better hand gear with good stats than 14 mp or whatever mp carby mitts have AND I'm a meleer and the dmg is higher and a few more reasons.

    So anyways, I'm gonna start on the trials where you gotta let your avatar deal the finishing blow and I wanna know, what is the easiest way to kill 200 dhamels? The bibiki bay ones are gonna take forever the way carby deals damage so any other suggestions would help. And yeah I've thought about lvl sync but I really don't have that many friends much less will I have the chance to sync to anyone. Sounds like a lost case huh...
    Sadly, level syncing to the Dhamels in Tahrongi Canyon (level 22 to make sure that they don't con Too Weak) seems like the least terrible way to do that trial. You can also try the ones in Abyssea - Altepa, but with Carby's weak DD abilities you will probably burn through stones even with a decent Atma set up.

    I bit the bullet and level synced that one, honestly, it wasn't that bad compared to some of the other trials. (Looking at you, Levithan.) But if you are just trying to get a free carby, you don't have to go as far as doing the Surya's Staff route. With a -3 perp staff of your choosing, Caller's Horn +1, Caller's Doublet +1, Nashira Gages, Evoker's Ring, and Caller's Pigaches +1 Carby should be free, if not give you a little MP back, even without Refresh.
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    You're right, the problem is that I just got back to the game and I don't got any of that fancy stuff, atma, empyrial AF or any of that. But you know what? You're probably right low lvl mobs die way faster than high lvls even if you're around their lvl.

    So Leviathan's staff is tough huh? Hmmmm I wouldn't think there was a harder staff to do than carby..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vangoh View Post
    You're right, the problem is that I just got back to the game and I don't got any of that fancy stuff, atma, empyrial AF or any of that. But you know what? You're probably right low lvl mobs die way faster than high lvls even if you're around their lvl.

    So Leviathan's staff is tough huh? Hmmmm I wouldn't think there was a harder staff to do than carby..
    The Caller's Horn is not very hard to get, the quest for it is easy but a bit time consuming so it takes perseverance. The quest for feet seals is pretty bad since there are three NMs between you and your goal that you have to walk to with reduced movement speed. (Try to find people who are taking out the bunny NM.) I have had pretty much no luck with the quests in the Heroes zones, so I really can't say about the body or hands.

    I wouldn't say that Levithan's staff is harder than Carby's, just that there are worse trials than Dhamels. (I am on the 250 beetle trial, this is possibly the worst trial ever since there are no good camps with an abundance of EP beetles. And no, Carby cannot one-shot goblin pets.) The trials for Levithan and Titan suffer the same troubles as Carbuncle, namely low damage. Holy Mist is awful, unless there is some way to mod the damage that I don't know about. Levithan's and Titan's physical blood pacts are pretty poor damage that can (and will) miss. Oh, and if a bee uses final sting or a bomb uses self-destruct, your pet obviously does not get credit for the kill. Awesome game design there.
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