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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicant82 View Post
    The only way that SE would be able to make this sever work is you have 1200 people who wanted to play on it.
    So why not make a petition and get people to sign it. Get enough sigs and maybe SE will listen.
    As a corporate officer in a company, I can tell you that they will listen with enough voices. Nothing grabs upper managements attention like paperwork, esp one that has a ton of backing. But arguing back and forth on the forums is not going to give you that satisfaction, nor will it give SE the "warm fuzzy" that they want to get something like this up and running.

    I miss the old days to a point, because they have great memories, but I think a lot of people who "miss" them are dewling in nostalgia of how things use to be compared to how they are now... and once they realize how bad it use to be under the tyranny that was the 75 capped World of Tanaka, they will run back to the normal servers and the classic server will do exactly what would have happened to the rest of the game if it had not changed; wither and die.
    But! All the more power to you in getting something like it off the ground.
    I've had a discussion about this with several people. A lot of the old stuff revolves around more-or-less the friendships that were created. If I could play FFXI today with the same group of people without a fear of them quitting every other month. Those feelings would still exist. So I'm kind of 2 sided. I legimitely want a server like this so I can have the grind all over because personally, I love grindy stuff. I also want it because I feel like people would potentially stay around longer if they played here. Giving me that "warm fuzzy" feeling. On the other hand, I would also not want to play on it, because I enjoy the idea of how casual the game has gone. I enjoy the fact that I can basically do all the content that a server like this would offer, except solo. I enjoy that there is the idea that I could play the game only a couple hours a day and still be on top (though I play it all day).

    On another note, there is nothing wrong at all with nostalgia. I still enjoy my reese's peanut butter cups, not just because they are good, but because I also enjoyed them when I was a child.

    Also, we have shown multiple instances of the possible success of a server like this. Can any of the people who claim a server like this wouldn't work, or would provide any proof to those claims? Or do we just keep defending some fabrication? Not saying proof doesn't exist, just merely pointing out that it gets pretty repetitive providing the same defense over and over when people seem to not look at the information already given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumbGame View Post
    Also, we have shown multiple instances of the possible success of a server like this. Can any of the people who claim a server like this wouldn't work, or would provide any proof to those claims? Or do we just keep defending some fabrication?
    Where have you (or anyone) given proof that this sever would be a success?
    You cannot say that another games success at a classic server means this game's would succeed.
    Also demanding proof of an opinion from someone is about as worthwhile as using a siv to gather water.
    but if you want to use other games as examples here are a few:
    Dark Age of Camelot - Classic server was running for about 1 year and then shut down due to low popularity.
    World of Warcraft - So concerned about their "classic" zones they tore them apart so that players could have access to flying mounts in them, and update the graphics used.

    Now sense I said you can use other games to prove it would work by all rights it makes the examples I have above null as well.

    I'm not saying that you shouldn't pursue the idea. But I am saying you are going to need more than a handful of people on a forum talking bout it.
    And with supporters calling other people rather inappropriate names in threads, it is not helping.
    Hence why I suggested a petition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicant82 View Post
    Dark Age of Camelot - Classic server was running for about 1 year and then shut down due to low popularity.
    World of Warcraft - So concerned about their "classic" zones they tore them apart so that players could have access to flying mounts in them, and update the graphics used.
    Your advice (petition) wouldn't be a bad idea but I chose to do it here for the specific reason that this is considered the "official" place to give feedback for the game. Go ahead and look at SE's website, it tells you to come here for feedback so I did. Your examples however I think are poor as the WoW one is not even remotely close to a 'classic' server and it also was not a failure either. For dark age, I don't recall that ever existing in anything other than free shards.... I mean if it did they must not have gotten the word out at all because litterally on every single game forum i've ever been on do ppl ask for the dark age of camelot experience and Camelot unchained was funded crowd funded to bring the old school dark age of camelot experience back. So, I can't say either one is really much of a strike against this. I also contest that it cant be compared to other games (when the two games are facing similar situations) and in this case I would compare it to everquest as everquest and ffxi are highly similar. Both have similar gameplay, both are very old and have limited dev teams and players and both have been modernized with time yet everquest made classic servers where ffxi has not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicant82 View Post
    Where have you (or anyone) given proof that this sever would be a success?
    You cannot say that another games success at a classic server means this game's would succeed.
    Also demanding proof of an opinion from someone is about as worthwhile as using a siv to gather water.
    but if you want to use other games as examples here are a few:
    Dark Age of Camelot - Classic server was running for about 1 year and then shut down due to low popularity.
    World of Warcraft - So concerned about their "classic" zones they tore them apart so that players could have access to flying mounts in them, and update the graphics used.

    Now sense I said you can use other games to prove it would work by all rights it makes the examples I have above null as well.

    I'm not saying that you shouldn't pursue the idea. But I am saying you are going to need more than a handful of people on a forum talking bout it.
    And with supporters calling other people rather inappropriate names in threads, it is not helping.
    Hence why I suggested a petition.
    Quote Originally Posted by PlumbGame View Post
    Also, we have shown multiple instances of the possible success of a server like this.
    Also, I know for a fact you have no idea about WoW, because they have commented on it being something currently not being worked on, and could be a possibility in the future. Actually I know so for a fact since I was one of the most recent people to make a thread about it on the WoW forums.

    You also imply your statements meaning everything anyone says is opinions, so everything is moot and why are we communicating in the first place? You also have 1 person calling someone else a rather inappropriate name in a thread, not everyone which your implication implies. Would you like me to show you people that call people who support this idea names (which still doesn't help the cause that this shouldn't happen)? Just arguing towards your irrelevant comments towards the subject now.
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