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    Quote Originally Posted by Natasha View Post
    As stated above, refrain from assuming the devs do not have the resources for the project as none of us know exactly what resources they have available. It would probably be better to state something like "I'm not against it as long as it doesn't interfere with the main version of the game."
    I guess I can't really complain when you say it like that, but even if the cost is small... I don't mean that they don't have the resources, but I do think that those resources would come out of FFXI's total budget. Like they're not going to hire anyone new for it...

    So my feedback to the devs is please keep focusing on the mainstream game (unless you could hire someone new to work on side projects that don't add to the main game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ris View Post
    I don't know, I would prefer the devs' limited time and resources be put into the mainstream FFXI.

    They probably do have the old versions' archives but it's not as simple as just throwing it on some server somewhere. People will still expect support, and if it catches on they'll want seasonal events and other content ported to it... And isn't there a lot of long term progression goals in FFXI right now for people that want to do that kind of thing?
    This is the biggest issue I see. Would releasing said servers prevent resources from being put into mainstream FFXI? This isn't really something we can answer, because we don't really know. Like I pointed out in previous comments though, you can use what we do know from other games that have done some type of suggested server for a basis. I feel it wouldn't, because if these servers were successful, it would allow the resources to use people specifically for those servers rather than using current staff. Now, that isn't to say SE would do that, and in fact it would probably be smarter to not do that since everything is already in place if some sort of "back ups" really do exist. All they basically need to do is flip a switch. It may come with bugs which is another story, but that is also under the assumption that those bugs didn't already have some sort of fix already. Since we live in a different era though with different operating systems etc. It would be safe to assume that something may be possibly bugged, though there also exists the chance that it's not. Considering though that FFXI is still alive and going, if something WAS bugged, the fixes would be phenomenally faster since there is a version of FFXI that already doesn't have said bugs.

    Also, stuff like GMs and things use to be volunteered. I don't know if that is the case anymore, and don't really care to find out, but if that is still the case, even GM activity is void. Seasonal events? How is that even an issue, most the seasonal events existed back in the days that exist now, your saying it would be harder to give said server a Christmas event over normal servers?

    Long term progression goals? I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Are you referring that people can create basically their own progression LS? If so, that is possible in a game like FFXI since nothing has been removed (well besides things like not being forced to lvl down for certain content which makes certain things basically impossible to relive), but it's just different. It's really hard to explain, and different for every person. For me, a big problem is not everyone else around me is doing the same thing, so it ruins my experience, almost like whats the point. Also, given the choice, I would rather take the easier route than make my life harder. The game, although content still exists, has significantly changed, from certain unique NMs have significantly reduced spawn timers, and exp rates through the roof, even just grinding mobs, 25% increased base movement etc. A lot of that stuff can't just be removed trying to create your own time-locked expansion LS or something.
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    I think a couple of the issues I do have that if something like this were to happen, there needs to be better measures in place for RMT and claim bots. Those were absolutely out of hand, and that is also something that has been huge on games that have done progression servers, RMT work their magic on them so fast.
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    It may bring ppl back so it may be worth the money.

    All I know is nearly our entire ls quit the game after abyssea was released and things like dynamis were destroyed. And since Adoulin/ARR the population seems to be dwindling all the more. Maybe a good ol reset on a single server would be a good choice.
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    I doubt SE still has the old code to roll back to. They would essentially have to rewrite the whole thing, thus creating a new game, and I doubt they have the staff or enough interest in doing such a project.

    I think a couple of the issues I do have that if something like this were to happen, there needs to be better measures in place for RMT and claim bots. Those were absolutely out of hand, and that is also something that has been huge on games that have done progression servers, RMT work their magic on them so fast.
    One such game got around that hurdle by blocking out China ISPs. Cut the amount of RMT activity by a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekrothing View Post
    http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/05...rver-detailed/

    Lineage 2 is currently in the process of launching three subscription-based hybrid-classic servers

    Now, how is this relevant? For quite some time, there are those who have hoped that Square would release some sort of classic server for FFXI. With the recent influx of players, the aging Lineage 2 has proved that it might be worthwhile for Square to test the waters with their own hybrid-classic server. If it'll revitalize the population and bring people back, having some sort "PTS-Classic Server" to gauge the interest wouldn't be a bad idea.
    Apparently lineage 2 is also going to be hosting a classic server of sorts, lets not miss out on this SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natasha View Post
    Apparently lineage 2 is also going to be hosting a classic server of sorts, lets not miss out on this SE.
    Here are some more links highlighting the success of these classic servers:

    Second classic server launched, with international ones being considered: http://2p.com/6773375_1/Innova-wants...by-Apophis.htm

    Third classic server launched: http://i.imgur.com/e2zryGU.jpg

    EU classic server confirmed: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic....art=350#p27507

    NA classic server being considered: http://s16.postimg.org/ce6zleln9/Dear_NCsoft.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekrothing View Post
    Here are some more links highlighting
    Thanks for hopping over, even though I broke the news a bit early. xD

    Wasn't sure if you would or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natasha View Post
    Thanks for hopping over, even though I broke the news a bit early. xD
    No worries! The more exposure this gets, the better.
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    With the fact that this is far from the first post on this subject, I wonder if the reps have taken this back to the devs and if they even for a moment stopped to consider it or even have their finance ppl take a look to see if it would be feasible.
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