[dev1216] Weapon Skill Adjustments

[Aeron]

Greetings,

I’m glad to see the excitement for these adjustments. How has everyone been finding the revamped weapon skills thus far?

I wanted to stop in here and point out some things about the weapon skill adjustments that were made yesterday in relation to NPCs.

• Enemy NPCs
  Certain enemies that use abilities that have the same name as the weapon skills that players use (Maat, Atori-Tutori, etc.) will also receive the effects from these adjustments.
  
  However, when it comes to the Ark Angels and shadow-type monsters in Adoulin areas, even though the abilities may have the same name, data-wise it has been set differently and they will not receive any effects from these adjustments.
  
  We will, however, be making adjustments to the enemies that have been affected by these adjustments in the July version update, and will be restoring them back to their original strength level.
  
  
• Adventuring fellows, alter egos, and other ally NPCs
  The weapon skills that adventuring fellows and Trust alter egos utilize will also receive the effects of these adjustments.
  
  Similarly, campaign ally NPCs are also affected at the moment; however, in the adjustments that are planned for the July version update we will be returning them to their original strength.

On another note, though I can’t get into too much detail at the moment, we are planning to make adjustments for the abilities that are performed by beastmaster pets, automatons, wyverns, and avatars.




The main aim of the overall adjustments made to weapon skills was to increase the stats of the less powerful weapon skills so they could be on par with the weapon skills that were really powerful before the adjustments took place.

Knights of Round has a high stat modifier before the adjustments took place and compared to other weapon skills is thought to be powerful so adjustments were not made to it.

I'd like to ask how the DEV team plans to resolve the ongoing issues with enmity control for tanks and melee dds? With this update not only did melee dds get and increase in ws dmg but as an increase to tp/hit which will equate to and increase in ws frequency. The crusade spell is not sufficient enough at providing the necessary adjustment to enmity to be able to tank properly. While I like the increase in dmg potential the rate of enmity generation is even worst off now it seems then it ever was. What's the point in reducing the dmg/enmity ratio even to like 20% of normal if you have sams that can do 13k fudos it just doesn't make sense from a tanking perspective. Tanks and I mean all tanks need some form of hate lock mechanic to be able to perform its job without the use of rngs as well as the addition of hate control ja mechanics for all dds. The mechanic so should have so moderate form of cooldown such that its possible to reliably reduce a dds hate. I also suggest a enmity bar to asset players in this determination. I understand the problem of just increasing the hate cap for tanks, this is why I also suggest giving more dds the ability to innately control their own enmity lvls besides turning. Turning is one of the worst hate controlling mechanics in the game. To suggest that in the middle of a battle and you were to grab the attention of a powerful monster that you would turn your back to it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense at least from my perspective.

[Damane]

I'd like to ask how the DEV team plans to resolve the ongoing issues with enmity control for tanks and melee dds? With this update not only did melee dds get and increase in ws dmg but as an increase to tp/hit which will equate to and increase in ws frequency. The crusade spell is not sufficient enough at providing the necessary adjustment to enmity to be able to tank properly. While I like the increase in dmg potential the rate of enmity generation is even worst off now it seems then it ever was. What's the point in reducing the dmg/enmity ratio even to like 20% of normal if you have sams that can do 13k fudos it just doesn't make sense from a tanking perspective. Tanks and I mean all tanks need some form of hate lock mechanic to be able to perform its job without the use of rngs as well as the addition of hate control ja mechanics for all dds. The mechanic so should have so moderate form of cooldown such that its possible to reliably reduce a dds hate. I also suggest a enmity bar to asset players in this determination. I understand the problem of just increasing the hate cap for tanks, this is why I also suggest giving more dds the ability to innately control their own enmity lvls besides turning. Turning is one of the worst hate controlling mechanics in the game. To suggest that in the middle of a battle and you were to grab the attention of a powerful monster that you would turn your back to it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense at least from my perspective.

this isnt the only problem this update has thrown everything out of proportion and has imbalanced any kind of balance that was approaching.
- Enmity was thrown off more due to increased damage from melees (albeit enmity never worked properly before)
- Ranged attackers were thrown back a bit more due to the massive increase of some frontline Wss (fudo...)
- Nukes in form from spells have died now totally off. There is no chance for any nuker to catch up dmg wise now, and if you need magical dmg the elemental magic weaponskill provide now a very good alternative if properly geared (depending on job and WS). Nukers just started recently to catch up, and with a bit more powerfull gear we maybe would have gotten to a point as a respectable alternativ.
- pet jobs are affected too, not like they were allready behind and started to catch up slowly now, but the WS increase has thrown them at the frey back again. pet dmg is neglectable now, all that counts is how fast can the master generate TP to WS. You are hurting yourself now more trying to gear hybrid with your pet in mind then focusing on your own DD output yourself as a master.
- BLU magic needs now a total overhaul AGAIN (it needed one before too)

honestly was excited for the WS update, but it was more harm then good tbh and drained 75% of the jobs down the toilet with the ecxeption of WHM BRD SAM and of course PLD and RNG for those fights you want to avoid haveing melees in. there isnt even a need for nukers anymore, self SC from SAM will get rid of any delve 2.0 aura or deal enough magical dmg to down any mob that is weak to magic since SCs cant be resisted anymore

good job Dev Team, as much as i like my new melee toys, the update disgusts me more atm.