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  1. #61
    Player Siviard's Avatar
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    @ Afania - I am not a SCH main, nor do I do Delve on SCH. But anyone that I bring along for a Tojil attempt always seems to miss Lahar for whatever reason despite the fact they have the "proper gear", capped magic skills, etc. So the whole "just cast Haste and Double Marches" seems to be irrelevant anyway, as Tojil spams TP moves enough to the point Lahar gets missed.

    The only successful runs I've been on, the SCH or whoever was stunning was using a bot.
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  2. #62
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    How many SCH`s did you have? Was it lowman? In an 18 man alliance 2 SCH's can stun everything tojil tries to do, but its usually best to just ignore spells. He`s predictable in his tp moves, he`ll always do 1 normal attack then a TP move/spell. If your SCH`s are missing Lahar because their timers are always down then they need to be more selective with their stunning.

    In a lowman run 1 SCH can stun Lahar without needing anything but gear, haste and marches. And be alert for Lahar. You can stun Lahar only and ignore everything else he does and he won't kill you if your whm isn't asleep.
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    Last edited by Calatilla; 04-20-2014 at 04:10 AM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    @ Afania - I am not a SCH main, nor do I do Delve on SCH. But anyone that I bring along for a Tojil attempt always seems to miss Lahar for whatever reason despite the fact they have the "proper gear", capped magic skills, etc. So the whole "just cast Haste and Double Marches" seems to be irrelevant anyway, as Tojil spams TP moves enough to the point Lahar gets missed.

    The only successful runs I've been on, the SCH or whoever was stunning was using a bot.

    I agree that some successful SCH uses bot, but not all, I know a few that doesn't. Especially JP SCH, they rarely bot for this(they don't suffer from lag as much as NA/EU). Just because you happened to pt with 1 SCH that stun with bot, doesn't mean everyone do the same.

    Tojil is also pretty much the only endgame content that really needs good stunning. Maybe shark too. Every other zone you don't need perfect stun like Tojil.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    I'm using my head. I'm just not using a bot.
    Just had to quote this and reply. The 7 likes are hilarious, are people seriously this bad? It doesn't take a bot to beat Tojil man. Lahar can get off and you can still win, you need to swap into -DT sets and be on top of heals. Also the linked thread you were sent seems like a joke, you are just bad. Yeah I'll come off like a whatever you want to call me, really sick of terrible players like you dragging this game down into the braindead WoW realm just so you can complete it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    @ Afania - I am not a SCH main, nor do I do Delve on SCH. But anyone that I bring along for a Tojil attempt always seems to miss Lahar for whatever reason despite the fact they have the "proper gear", capped magic skills, etc. So the whole "just cast Haste and Double Marches" seems to be irrelevant anyway, as Tojil spams TP moves enough to the point Lahar gets missed.

    The only successful runs I've been on, the SCH or whoever was stunning was using a bot.
    If they can stun one move, they can stun Lahar. It isn't a super magical ws that gets through every time, you were in fail PUGs, which isn't abnormal.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Just had to quote this and reply. The 7 likes are hilarious, are people seriously this bad? It doesn't take a bot to beat Tojil man. Lahar can get off and you can still win, you need to swap into -DT sets and be on top of heals. Also the linked thread you were sent seems like a joke, you are just bad. Yeah I'll come off like a whatever you want to call me, really sick of terrible players like you dragging this game down into the braindead WoW realm just so you can complete it.
    Liked and way to go for Draylo to stand up and speak the truth. OF needs more people like you to speak honest opinion, instead of having certain group of player that always act as if they're the majority and only their opinion matters.
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    Greetings,

    We’ve been seeing comments that a lot of shouts made in-game for certain content are mainly looking to recruit monks, and there have been requests to make it so other damage dealing jobs can compete with monk.

    During the recent Freshly Picked Vana’diel, Matsui mentioned that the stats for just about every weapon skill would be revamped in the June version update.

    In addition to this, we’ll also be making adjustments to the calculations for how TP is gained, and with this, the aspect where there would be advantages and disadvantages depending on the value of a weapon’s delay will be lessened.

    With these adjustments, the gap between the damage over time for each damage dealing job will become smaller.

    Also, we’ve set enemies for certain content to be strong against hand-to-hand attacks, breath attacks (including attacks coming from Formless Strikes), as well as enemies where magic attacks are efficient, in order to have more variety of damage dealing jobs. We’ll continue to make these type of adjustments moving forward.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

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    I sincerely hope this means a wider array of possible tactics and counters. You mentioned making some things strong to "breath attacks" but we still don't have anything that's WEAK to breath spells. Again, this is a matter of making all spells and abilities have their use and, right now, breath spells don't.
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    I don't think you guys seem to get why MNK is always sought out for events....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannon View Post
    I don't think you guys seem to get why MNK is always sought out for events....
    Then I would suggest you explain at length and in-depth. I'd certainly like to see a well-written explanation on this forum myself, just for posterity.

    If not you, then perhaps Byrth would be the best suited...
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    Last edited by Maledict; 05-23-2014 at 09:04 AM.

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