Server Merge

[tumz]

I suppose it is a catch 22, FFXI can't support more players, and less shouts / parties means more folks jump ship. I enjoy the 18 man runs and getting good groups together to run the skirmish 3. With lack of players, this become harder and harder to do. Waiting to do salvage, AA fights, and Dynamis overcrowding isn't a big deal. Everyone is sick of running them, and when I'm forced to either party or go do DC mobs is very welcome in comparison. Soloing Dynamis for 160 days, and/or Salvage is my idea of a very slow painful death... I'm going to go play some Diablo 3 because this conversation just depressed me lol.

[Afania]

I suppose it is a catch 22, FFXI can't support more players, and less shouts / parties means more folks jump ship. I enjoy the 18 man runs and getting good groups together to run the skirmish 3. With lack of players, this become harder and harder to do. Waiting to do salvage, AA fights, and Dynamis overcrowding isn't a big deal. Everyone is sick of running them, and when I'm forced to either party or go do DC mobs is very welcome in comparison. Soloing Dynamis for 160 days, and/or Salvage is my idea of a very slow painful death... I'm going to go play some Diablo 3 because this conversation just depressed me lol.

"No /shout" really isn't player population issue, it's more like the lack of trust in PUG or the lack of specific jobs.

If you go out and make a delve 6 man pt /shout, I can promise you you can get your 3x DD in a few min. Then you may spend 1hr looking for a SCH and BRD.

Even if the player population increased by 100% after merge, you'd just see 2 party /shouting for BRD and SCH. When BRD SCH finally pop only 1 party can 6/6.

FFXIV had more player than FFXI at launch, but back then if I try to queue on a DPS job, I can wait for hours but tank job was instant queue. Because there were more tanks than DPS. It doesn't matter if the server was full with 7000 players, there are just more DPS than tanks.

FFXI had same issue, everyone and their mother wants to play DD, nobody want to play BRD SCH.

Another reason is because most of the good players doesn't trust /shout, so they only do stuff with ls/friends.

I think the main reason why SE wouldn't do server merge is probably because of AA/salvage instance issue. Once I made an AA pt on JP prime time and there were 77 people in zone and nearly 1hr wait time, with server merge it'd be over 140 people and what, 2hr wait time?

You may not think it's a big deal to wait for that long, I think it is. Personally I can't tolerate it.

[tumz]

"No /shout" really isn't player population issue, it's more like the lack of trust in PUG or the lack of specific jobs.

If you go out and make a delve 6 man pt /shout, I can promise you you can get your 3x DD in a few min. Then you may spend 1hr looking for a SCH and BRD.

Even if the player population increased by 100% after merge, you'd just see 2 party /shouting for BRD and SCH. When BRD SCH finally pop only 1 party can 6/6.

FFXIV had more player than FFXI at launch, but back then if I try to queue on a DPS job, I can wait for hours but tank job was instant queue. Because there were more tanks than DPS. It doesn't matter if the server was full with 7000 players, there are just more DPS than tanks.

FFXI had same issue, everyone and their mother wants to play DD, nobody want to play BRD SCH.

Another reason is because most of the good players doesn't trust /shout, so they only do stuff with ls/friends.

I think the main reason why SE wouldn't do server merge is probably because of AA/salvage instance issue. Once I made an AA pt on JP prime time and there were 77 people in zone and nearly 1hr wait time, with server merge it'd be over 140 people and what, 2hr wait time?

You may not think it's a big deal to wait for that long, I think it is. Personally I can't tolerate it.

Meh, I have a geared WHM, BRD, and SCH. I'm looking for shouts for new delve zones/skirmish 3 and don't see them at all most nights. Get your head out of the sand and look around, a couple months ago I was constantly in a run with another one lined up after that one ended. A lot of my friends have moved on and NA linkshells are dying off in my Time Zone. I love this game, but I hate soloing.

[detlef]

Meh, I have a geared WHM, BRD, and SCH. I'm looking for shouts for new delve zones/skirmish 3 and don't see them at all most nights. Get your head out of the sand and look around, a couple months ago I was constantly in a run with another one lined up after that one ended. A lot of my friends have moved on and NA linkshells are dying off in my Time Zone. I love this game, but I hate soloing.

You don't seem to be able to handle it when someone disagrees with you. Unless SE makes dedicated NA/EU/JP servers, they won't merge servers because JP times will become hellish. Straight up combining 2 servers would make Dynamis, Ark Angels, and Salvage intolerable. And JPs would probably riot, as they would be the most negatively affected.

[Zarchery]

Meh, I have a geared WHM, BRD, and SCH. I'm looking for shouts for new delve zones/skirmish 3 and don't see them at all most nights. Get your head out of the sand and look around, a couple months ago I was constantly in a run with another one lined up after that one ended. A lot of my friends have moved on and NA linkshells are dying off in my Time Zone. I love this game, but I hate soloing.

What is this "I'm looking for shouts" thing I'm constantly hearing? Did Square Enix release some sort of discounted version of the game with the /shout and /yell features disabled? I've had it up to here with people who don't want to go through the hard work of forming their own events, then complain that nobody else will invite them to theirs.

[predatory]

What is this "I'm looking for shouts" thing I'm constantly hearing? Did Square Enix release some sort of discounted version of the game with the /shout and /yell features disabled? I've had it up to here with people who don't want to go through the hard work of forming their own events, then complain that nobody else will invite them to theirs.

It does get tiring after awhile doesn't it?

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

Well The bantering back and forth over language barriers is getting old fast on the server merger topic. well I'm done reading here, I think, unless it changes to something better discussed for this topic finally.

[tumz]

What is this "I'm looking for shouts" thing I'm constantly hearing? Did Square Enix release some sort of discounted version of the game with the /shout and /yell features disabled? I've had it up to here with people who don't want to go through the hard work of forming their own events, then complain that nobody else will invite them to theirs.

Lol I said I'm not seeing the Shouts at all... which means population issues, not that I can't jump in one. Yes, I know I can spend an hour or so forming and running the event that I want, but I was just giving an example of low population issues. My gear is good, my jobs are good, and my friend's list is vast... running the event isn't the issue, its the shrinking player base. Reading some of the other comments about salvage instances crashing the servers really concerns me. I'm done commenting on this thread, to sum it up. There is population issues, realize it, or don't, I love this game, but realize it might be time to move on. Either way, any more comments by me will just be trolling the fanboys that hear what they want from this thread.

[Zarchery]

There is population issues, realize it, or don't, I love this game, but realize it might be time to move on. Either way, any more comments by me will just be trolling the fanboys that hear what they want from this thread.

I'm so tired of this too. Someone has an opinion, and they expects nothing but applause and agreement. Those who take up contradictory views are called trolls and fanboys.

You know, back in the olden days of high server populations, you didn't get shouts for pickup groups either. You either had a linkshell to do this stuff at scheduled times or you didn't do it at all. Server merge talk is bunkum. I see 500-1000 people online whenever I search. May be a low number, but it only takes 6 of those people to do group content, and only 1 to do most stuff.

[Sapphire]

Just want to point out that congestion - like what is happening on more populated servers for Salvage - doesn't just cause people to have to wait. It has been causing actual server issues:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...s-%28Apr.-6%29

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...s-%28Apr.-5%29

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th....-11%29http://

And then no one can do Salvage.

I'm not saying merges won't happen. But only SE knows the actual server populations, and they won't merge until it'll solve more problems than it will cause.