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    Player tumz's Avatar
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    Server Merge

    I just took a couple month break and came back to Phoenix and noticed a considerable drop in the amount of american time zone players. (I.E. searches in Port Jueno are below 200 and Adoulin looks considerably less populated.) I've been doing a pickup shout here and there but that has slowed way down as well. I'm not saying that FFXI is dead, but the playerbase is dwindling and Phoenix could use a boost in numbers.

    If merges are going to happen the issue below needs to be addressed
    -Fix instance caps on AA mission fights. (Don't know if this is still an issue, but I remember issues a couple months back with it and with an influx of players could cause some grief.)
    I realize that the fan boys will rush to say join an active linkshell that does events, but come on guys you have to be noticing what i'm saying here. I'm in an active linkshell and we are seeing membership numbers dropping. The population poses a serious problem and you need a way to boost it and support the increase in population numbers. Without that, the numbers will fall at an increased rate as the population goes lower.

    I'm sure there are several other factors that need to be considered, and if another server beside Phoenix has a healthy american time zone population let me know. I don't mind transferring to it. I mainly play between 9 PM CST and Midnight CST.

    Thank you,
    Tumz
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    Agreeing in merger but also Speaks about the Test Server as well.

    I agree with you tumz but if they do server mergers again, I believe that is a lot of technical work they would have to do again and They are debating what to do with the test server but I'd like to see that they some how see the test server merged into the rest of the servers with your current characters and have it be a closed off area that is accessed by speaking to the moogle since i really cant afford another character at this point to play on the test server.

    Also I know that if I click on the icon play on test server, it will say sorry test server software not installed on.... {forgot what it says from after on}.
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    Last edited by YosemiteYogorockBlondelle; 05-06-2014 at 02:54 AM.
    (Yo-Sim-Mit-Tea is the correct pronunciation. It is how its spoken, folks.) Come over & visit awhile to many posted changes to the life of Vana'dial. You can find past posts found by a link, pops up with Char name highlighted, thanks!
    I'm Wishing to see the Greatness in all players suggesting changes to ffxi ahead, here's to the Future of FFXI, Cheers Mate!!.

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    SE posted sever losses for last year, playstation dumped all it's SE stock, and they're basically bleeding cash, I wouldn't count on them doing much of anything in the way of server mergers if it cost money to do. They put out FFXIV and claim 2 million players on the front page of their lodestone, but if that was the case they wouldn't be so hard up right now. I don't know what they're thinking, but they could have kept alot of people by doing a merge when they saw populations declining, that would have kept some of the players here, because let's face it, quite a few have left because there is a lack of people to do things with, and it gets quite frustrating at times.

    Somehow I get the feeling that they want us to spend the money to transfer to other worlds, but that probably isnt going to happen, if they allowed free transfer service to select worlds the problem could be solved without them spending alot of cash to fix it
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    Quote Originally Posted by predatory View Post
    SE posted sever losses for last year, playstation dumped all it's SE stock, and they're basically bleeding cash, I wouldn't count on them doing much of anything in the way of server mergers if it cost money to do. They put out FFXIV and claim 2 million players on the front page of their lodestone, but if that was the case they wouldn't be so hard up right now. I don't know what they're thinking, but they could have kept alot of people by doing a merge when they saw populations declining, that would have kept some of the players here, because let's face it, quite a few have left because there is a lack of people to do things with, and it gets quite frustrating at times.

    Somehow I get the feeling that they want us to spend the money to transfer to other worlds, but that probably isnt going to happen, if they allowed free transfer service to select worlds the problem could be solved without them spending alot of cash to fix it
    FFXIV has 2 million registered players, that's not subscribers. Many of the servers on FFXIV are just as bad as they are on FFXI, they don't want to do merges because it's embarassing.

    FFXI probably has 10+ million registered players by now, registered players means all players that ever registered for a SE account even if it's long since inactive. Registered players covers beta players, players that played for a week and never came back, rmt etc. It's a worthless number used for PR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    FFXIV has 2 million registered players, that's not subscribers. Many of the servers on FFXIV are just as bad as they are on FFXI, they don't want to do merges because it's embarassing.

    FFXI probably has 10+ million registered players by now, registered players means all players that ever registered for a SE account even if it's long since inactive. Registered players covers beta players, players that played for a week and never came back, rmt etc. It's a worthless number used for PR.
    Dare I say the server pops over there are even less than FFXI. I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or they severely limit search abilities, but searching each region one at a time and counting it up, I've counted as little as 500 server pop in between major updates. It's kind of sad because the people on the forums for 14 are just either completely oblivious to the truth or they choose to overlook it and quote the 2 mil figure in defense of a game that is failing because SE traded trademark SE gameplay for mainstream easy mode to maximize subscribers. Only problem is they didn't correctly predict that their target audience played that style of game to death over at WoW. Now they got a MMORPG that can't hold the attention of mainstream gamers for long AND it's worthless to the core fans. Ouch?

    I see nothing but emptiness in 14 these days, with Mor being by far the most populated with around 80-180 people there. Shrug. I feel bad for whoever at SE that looks at the figures and scratches their head all dumbfounded "....um....how is it FFXI is doing better than FFXIV... uhhhh... <blank stare for hours>"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    Dare I say the server pops over there are even less than FFXI. I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or they severely limit search abilities, but searching each region one at a time and counting it up, I've counted as little as 500 server pop in between major updates. It's kind of sad because the people on the forums for 14 are just either completely oblivious to the truth or they choose to overlook it and quote the 2 mil figure in defense of a game that is failing because SE traded trademark SE gameplay for mainstream easy mode to maximize subscribers. Only problem is they didn't correctly predict that their target audience played that style of game to death over at WoW. Now they got a MMORPG that can't hold the attention of mainstream gamers for long AND it's worthless to the core fans. Ouch?

    I see nothing but emptiness in 14 these days, with Mor being by far the most populated with around 80-180 people there. Shrug. I feel bad for whoever at SE that looks at the figures and scratches their head all dumbfounded "....um....how is it FFXI is doing better than FFXIV... uhhhh... <blank stare for hours>"
    What they did was try to push people over there by making this one like that one, and what happened was it blew up in their faces, what they should have done, (and anybody with even a modicum of intelligence would have done), was other than an expansion they should have left ffxi alone, but being the rocket scientists that they aren't, they decided to reinvent the wheel, and like anyone else in history thats done that they fucking failed. SE i have an idea for you morons, if its not broken, dont fix it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    Dare I say the server pops over there are even less than FFXI. I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or they severely limit search abilities, but searching each region one at a time and counting it up, I've counted as little as 500 server pop in between major updates.

    14's search function isn't accurate. AFAIK you can't search players in instance.

    ARR is kinda instance based MMORPG, 95%(or more) of event happen in instances, most players spend their time in instances. Using search function won't give you accurate number unless they change it recently.

    You won't be able to know the exact active player in ARR, SE wouldn't release it. They only ever give a vague and misleading number like "2 million registered account".
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    Didn't SE have a really good 2013 after a terrible 2012?
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    Didn't SE have a really good 2013 after a terrible 2012?
    After the mess with 14 they did have it rough but no where near as rough as when Spirits With In tanked. They also cashed in on some easy money with the HD remakes of a few games that needed little investment and turned good sells numbers so SE isn't in dire straights. They are no where near where they should be thanks to 14 but not close to going belly up either.

    With the server merges it's tricky if you are doing it to try and keep people and more people quit because of the merge then you just wasted everyone's time. Losing your name could be the trigger that finally pushes many people over the edge and they move on. So a catch 22 situation for SE merge and hope enough people are happy or merge and more people are pissed off that they lost their name. It'll happen at some point but it will not happen because of NA numbers.
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    Rather than merges, we really should just be allowed a 1 time free change of server.
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