A Suggestion From The Pet Job Community: Stop Ignoring Us and Listen To Our Plea.

[WoW]

Monstrosity is what bst should have been; minus the absurd hp. Having a master that deals great deal of damage alone leaves the door open for possible overpowering.

Imo, the master should have been weak (Not smn weak); while the pet should be monstrosity like (Instincts and all that other crap). Now excuse me while I go play the real beastmaster (Monstrosity)

[Jinzha]

Hello, everyone.

Rest assured that the development team has not forgotten about pets, nor are they ignoring your feedback. Everything is being taken in and considered for adjustments.

The first adjustment that they are planning, as we mentioned previously, is the addition of food that will affect both the master and the pet. Amongst this new food, there will be accuracy enhancing food, much like sushi, that will increase the accuracy for both the master and the pet. These new foods will be added in the next version update.

Also, due to the fact that pets cannot receive enhancements from songs and such, the development team is planning to make the effect received from food higher for pets than what the player receives.

Before any further adjustments are made, we’d like to start by implementing this first and monitoring the situation for a while. After the version update is live, please be sure to try out the food and let us know your feedback.

I'm glad you guys finally decided to respond to us, that's all we wanted. I'm not going to spend to much time harping over the fact that just adding Food isn't going to solve anything, but instead I'll just wait patiently until the next version update. If pet food isn't up to everyone's expectations, which means a percentage based pet food that at least is +25% (200+) Accuracy and Ranged Accuracy to the pet which would compensate for us not getting accuracy from songs, rolls, and Geomancy, then you will be hearing a lot of 'Feedback' from me.

[Siviard]

Monstrosity is what bst should have been; minus the absurd hp. Having a master that deals great deal of damage alone leaves the door open for possible overpowering.

Imo, the master should have been weak (Not smn weak); while the pet should be monstrosity like (Instincts and all that other crap). Now excuse me while I go play the real beastmaster (Monstrosity)

Perhaps you've been playing Monstrosity a bit too much.....

[WoW]

Perhaps you've been playing Monstrosity a bit too much.....

Would you rather have a tp bar where you can ws at will (or back to back) or a restricted ready bar? Would you want your jugs to have most of their moves or moves mysteriously removed? Would want your monster to have some form of defense boosting/dd applications or naked?

Edit: Yea, I do play monstrosity often.....and your pets are still gimped (Do not see the point in that remark). This whole thread is about boosting the pets; manipulators are boosted monsters; see a correlation? Nothing wrong with taking certain elements from monstrosity and implementing them to bst.

[Olor]

I'm glad you guys finally decided to respond to us, that's all we wanted. I'm not going to spend to much time harping over the fact that just adding Food isn't going to solve anything, but instead I'll just wait patiently until the next version update. If pet food isn't up to everyone's expectations, which means a percentage based pet food that at least is +25% (200+) Accuracy and Ranged Accuracy to the pet which would compensate for us not getting accuracy from songs, rolls, and Geomancy, then you will be hearing a lot of 'Feedback' from me.

You'll definitely be giving feedback. We all know that the acc boost will not touch ranged acc and will be pathetic amount of normal acc (probably +50). W/E - my favourite job will just be broken for months and months more (probably forever)... lol

[Terrigenesis]

You pet jobs always complain about "oh we are always getting ignored" when pet jobs can solo content that non-pet jobs can't. Sounds like someone wants his cake and eat it too.

[Psion]

You pet jobs always complain about "oh we are always getting ignored" when pet jobs can solo content that non-pet jobs can't. Sounds like someone wants his cake and eat it too.

Like? WotG missions? abyssea? salvage II? normal mobs? Please enlighten me on what content pet jobs can solo now that other jobs can't, because quite frankly nothing i've done as pup recently i've felt i couldn't solo on another non-pet job. I even tried to solo the run af orobon. Here's how it went. "Oniwaka spams teir V nukes on the orobon with eminent animator, tranquilizer, ice maker, optic fiber, condenser, and all other nuking attachments, along with magic acc gear... and does 200ish damage each time."

Yeah, considering he took off 1% hp every several minutes, it wasn't working. I tried swapping to a melee frame. "whiffwhiffwhiffdead". I couldn't solo it as master either with whm pup healing me, because it charms. This is an orobon. it moves slow. by all means, my pup should have been able to kite nuke it to death, but because pet jobs are so ridiculously outdated against ilvl mobs, i couldn't even dent the damn thing with my automaton. smn honestly has it the best because at least their pets have potent nuke BPs to fall back on, and they scale better on ilvl mobs than bst or pup does.

Name me one kind of real content that matters where a pet job can solo their way through that other jobs cannot. I dare you.

Even if were still true, it wouldn't matter because we have to beg our friends to let us into endgame content, which is you know, kind of important to get the best gear to improve our job. If all our best gear was some special content designed around our jobs being able to solo, maybe we wouldn't care so much, but it's not, and i wouldn't expect SE to release pet job solo endgame content when its impractical.

The fact is, our pets have the stats of an empy gear +2 job with a level 99 relic weapon. that's great! ...if we were still in 2008. We're not, and any player showing up to delve in that kind of gear nowadays would be called gimp, and rightly so. When a melee bard can outparse my DD automaton, when a bloody whm can outparse my DD automaton just from tossing an occasional magic burst holy, we have issues. BIG issues. You'd be correct in us wanting our cake and eating it too. I don't make cakes just to give them out to random people, i want to taste my hard efforts too.

[Rwolf]

Actually, it does make sense; i lvled cooking and thus have easy access to jugs. I do not make the rules; i just know how to play by them. There is no flaw in that; I lvl cooking and have no issue obtaining jugs, it is not really flawed imo. For instance, if someone takes the time to lvl a craft that can assist them; I do not see how that is flawed. These are just my personal experiences, lol. I also stated that jugs should not be consumable so ppl like yourself can obtain them. I did not program the game, lol. I just play it.

You're counter arguing something completely different. You agreed with BigDave that Ranger is the most expensive job in the game because you make your jugs and profit off them, that is what I was saying is flawed. Flawed, because you can apply the same rationale to Ranger who not only can make their own ammo, but has several battle systems in place that recover ammo. Same for Ninja and Corsair. Indeed it is your personal experience that Beasmaster is inexpensive. In your personal experience jugs and healing items are easy to obtain. However, your posts come off entirely as there is nothing wrong with the system and raising cooking is an integral part of Beastmaster. You keep saying that jugs shouldn't even be consumable so there is no reason to continue going back and forth.

To your second point; your post appears to imply that not everyone lvls a craft or shares my dedication to bst; thus you cannot relate, because the job is expensive to you. Well....bst is not expensive or a hassle to me thus I cannot relate. I do not feel it needs alleviation, but i welcome it, because not everyone lvls cooking. It goes both ways, I do not feel your thinking is flawed, just because you did not lvl cooking; but that is just how it is atm, cooking helps. this is not 14 where crafts have no place in the game.

My main gripe is with the pet selection; they suck. I had a change of heart recently, if our jug selection continue to suck; it does not matter what they add to bst unless it overpowers them to extreme heights for the sake of hard content (Which may be a problem if they are sam or war like).

You're twisting my words about dedication. If you leveled a craft solely to ease the expense of Beastmaster, you do have dedication to the job. I'm speaking to your dedication (which is why you were quoted), not the whole Beastmaster community. Any job is less expensive if you raise crafts to support it. However, not everyone will and nor should it be a requirement to be affordable. Your argument is Beastmaster is affordable because you can craft the items. It's your personal point of view, not fact. Beastmaster (crafting and gil reserves aside) is the most expensive job to play.

I feel like we really are not discussing anything given that you agree. Your post seems like you're thinking out loud as it switches tones from agree to disagree. I didn't quote you to be condescending and start an argument with you. If you feel you need to quote me back to defend your post. Feel free, but I'm not going to continue derailing the topic.

[Damane]

You pet jobs always complain about "oh we are always getting ignored" when pet jobs can solo content that non-pet jobs can't. Sounds like someone wants his cake and eat it too.

nothing that is relevant in terms of gear or progression is soloable by pet jobs, everythign else that isnt relevant can be solod by any job. So your point is moot, because everyone is sitting in the same boat duh. There is nothing out there that only a pet job can solo,

[WoW]

You're counter arguing something completely different. You agreed with BigDave that Ranger is the most expensive job in the game because you make your jugs and profit off them, that is what I was saying is flawed. Flawed, because you can apply the same rationale to Ranger who not only can make their own ammo, but has several battle systems in place that recover ammo. Same for Ninja and Corsair. Indeed it is your personal experience that Beasmaster is inexpensive. In your personal experience jugs and healing items are easy to obtain. However, your posts come off entirely as there is nothing wrong with the system and raising cooking is an integral part of Beastmaster. You keep saying that jugs shouldn't even be consumable so there is no reason to continue going back and forth.



You're twisting my words about dedication. If you leveled a craft solely to ease the expense of Beastmaster, you do have dedication to the job. I'm speaking to your dedication (which is why you were quoted), not the whole Beastmaster community. Any job is less expensive if you raise crafts to support it. However, not everyone will and nor should it be a requirement to be affordable. Your argument is Beastmaster is affordable because you can craft the items. It's your personal point of view, not fact. Beastmaster (crafting and gil reserves aside) is the most expensive job to play.

I feel like we really are not discussing anything given that you agree. Your post seems like you're thinking out loud as it switches tones from agree to disagree. I didn't quote you to be condescending and start an argument with you. If you feel you need to quote me back to defend your post. Feel free, but I'm not going to continue derailing the topic.

you are arguing just to argue...lol, let me explain what I was saying; gonna make it short. My experiences are not flawed because I did not program the game; I just play by its' rules. These are just my experiences brah; why are they flawed? Is every crafter experiences flawed? You are not going to respond back because your comments pertaining to my flawed thinking were contradicting. I never stated that your experiences were flawed because you do not lvl crafting/believe bst is expensive, but you think mine were because I do not share the same sentiments? Hmmmmmm.....We can probably all agree that charm has flawed mechanics because it is a known fact that wild animals are not available in AA battles.

Bst is not expensive to me, whoopdeedoo.....it is expensive in your eyes....ok...fine..i even gave an alternative to make them less expensive but you felt the need to pick on the post.

I also stated that the majority were right; these buffs will not overpower the jugs unless they release an insane dd scorpion. A fully buffed scorpion, with sharp strike, and death scissors could do some major damage; perhaps that is what we need. I agree with you guys now as I stated before, you guys may be right; yes I did swicth my argument. I am a man, an extremely handsome man, but I digress; I can admit when I may have been wrong about something; and?

We both just did the bolded part btw^^

However; as it pertains to derailing; that is cool; I am wit it.