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    Player Kincard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xantavia View Post
    Unfortunately, I think this is a total pipe-dream, partly because of the player base. If the jobs aren't exactly equal, there will be those who want only the best, no matter how small the difference. If one job does 10,000 dmg over the length of the fight, but another job does 9990 dmg, they won't want the weaker job. I mean, that 10 point difference might make the battle last a minute longer. Seems people only care about having the quickest, safest, and easiest path to a win and don't even want to try something different.
    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Yeah sadly some in the community take efficiency to the point of absurdity. And just as in a game of Telephone, the info that there is a slight DPS difference between jobs eventually morphs into that slightly weaker job becoming considered totally worthless under all conditions.
    There is already an objective way of measuring job performance, and classes that are considered total crap (THF, DNC, NIN, list goes on) simple deal less damage, and it's not a case of "oh it's only slightly less, we'll clear the content anyway"- a perfectly geared NIN is literally dealing like 60% of the damage a MNK is putting out. There's simply no way to argue against such an absurd gap.

    It's true there will always be people obsessed with efficiency, but that's pretty exhaustive. The majority of people playing XIV don't care if you take whatever mixture of MNK, BLM, DRG, SMN, or BRD because you'll still be able to clear the content with more or less the same effort- FYI, BRDs do something like 15% less damage than the melee jobs do in that game right now (under ideal conditions). If FFXI had a Duty Finder, you know the dungeon would be abandoned the instant someone zoned in and saw a NIN tank, a THF DPS, or a SMN as sole support.
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Camiie
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    Fenrir
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    MNK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    There is already an objective way of measuring job performance, and classes that are considered total crap (THF, DNC, NIN, list goes on) simple deal less damage, and it's not a case of "oh it's only slightly less, we'll clear the content anyway"- a perfectly geared NIN is literally dealing like 60% of the damage a MNK is putting out. There's simply no way to argue against such an absurd gap.
    What about the DD that aren't MNK? Some are not nearly as far behind it as THF DNC and NIN are, yet they may as well be. It's all or nothing with some people. Get the best or just don't go, even if winning without the best is entirely possible.

    It's true there will always be people obsessed with efficiency, but that's pretty exhaustive. The majority of people playing XIV don't care if you take whatever mixture of MNK, BLM, DRG, SMN, or BRD because you'll still be able to clear the content with more or less the same effort- FYI, BRDs do something like 15% less damage than the melee jobs do in that game right now (under ideal conditions). If FFXI had a Duty Finder, you know the dungeon would be abandoned the instant someone zoned in and saw a NIN tank, a THF DPS, or a SMN as sole support.

    And this is what needs to change.
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    Player Tennotsukai's Avatar
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    Tennotsukai
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    I'd also like to say that I am soooo tired of Rng being the new shout job...pretty much took the place of Mnk. Bleh
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