Thief's knife upgrade

[Glamdring]

The development team was looking into a higher-tier version of Thief’s Knife; however, they felt it would result in thieves equipping both the new knife and the original which would further limit their weapon selection. In order to solve this issue, they are currently looking into placing a cap on treasure hunter from equipment in the future.

With this as well as the addition of other equipment with treasure hunter, we are aiming to make it so you can reach the equipment cap and no longer need to use Thief’s Knife. Please also know that we will not be reducing the value of treasure hunter obtainable with current equipment.

While I can’t make any promises as to when this adjustment will take place, we will be sure to keep you updated as there is progress!

They could also easily prevent a DW thief's knife situation by keeping it R/Ex but with an upgrade quest. so the upgraded knife still blocked using a 2nd original version

[Lilbittythang]

All you have to do is equip your TH set and poke any mob 1 time and your TH is on it. Afterwards put on what you want. Is it really that difficult to make a macro for these few pieces of gear, and to carry them in your 80 slot inventory. "But I lose my TP" ; ; boo hoo WS first then equip it, or if TH is more important don't. If damage is more important to you then don't use it at all. So you proc TH 1 level lower it won't hurt your drops on anything you're looking to do damage on that it's inappropriate or inconvenient for you to swap daggers for 1 swing. Please do not cap TH in gear, and continue making more pieces with it on it for those situations where we want the highest TH possible, and we're willing to change every piece of gear necessary to achieve this goal. If you don't like TH knife then don't use it. If you do like it then who cares what level it is, or how outdated it is put it on smack once and change gear for one of the newer much better daggers.

[Olor]

All you have to do is equip your TH set and poke any mob 1 time and your TH is on it. Afterwards put on what you want. Is it really that difficult to make a macro for these few pieces of gear, and to carry them in your 80 slot inventory. "But I lose my TP" ; ; boo hoo WS first then equip it, or if TH is more important don't.

Pretty sure they said awhile ago that if you take off any TH gear your TH goes down in effectiveness on the target, even if you hit them with higher level TH

[Lilbittythang]

Pretty sure they said awhile ago that if you take off any TH gear your TH goes down in effectiveness on the target, even if you hit them with higher level TH

Meaning your TH becomes gimped like a lesser TH or meaning you're less likely to proc a higher TH lvl? If it's the first then that's where their system is broken and should be fixed not on worrying about the crappy dagger. If it's the latter then back to my original post if it's more important for a higher quality TH than DD then put your gear on and suck it up. If you need more DD accept the lesser TH and put on DD gear.

[Syhrie]

The absolute main problem THF has right now is not TH gear, its the THFs that continuously want to make a fight as long as possible to proc TH up. Even if dev's go with this TH Gear cap solution, I can promise everyone that the new weapons of choice are going to be Twilight Knife/Merc. Kris, to purposely make NMs last as long as possible. If this is going to be implemented PLEASE make it so iLvl weapons affect the chance of procing TH. On higher difficulty fights a THF would choose a higher lvl weapon so that would be moot point, but the main reason players use THF are to farm fodder NM drops. Please tie in TH procs with ilvl!

[Catmato]

Meaning your TH becomes gimped like a lesser TH or meaning you're less likely to proc a higher TH lvl? If it's the first then that's where their system is broken and should be fixed not on worrying about the crappy dagger. If it's the latter then back to my original post if it's more important for a higher quality TH than DD then put your gear on and suck it up. If you need more DD accept the lesser TH and put on DD gear.

Wow. What job do you play that you're afraid of THF doing a little more damage? These suggestions really don't hurt anyone. Actually, they help everyone with more damage and higher TH.

[FrankReynolds]

Meaning your TH becomes gimped like a lesser TH or meaning you're less likely to proc a higher TH lvl? If it's the first then that's where their system is broken and should be fixed not on worrying about the crappy dagger. If it's the latter then back to my original post if it's more important for a higher quality TH than DD then put your gear on and suck it up. If you need more DD accept the lesser TH and put on DD gear.

I agree. They should take it a step further and do this for all jobs though. Let's make it so martial arts only works if you full time brass knuckles and warcry / berzerk/ double attack only work if you equip a level 60 axe. Let's have dual wield tied to level 70 katanas.

Let's really make the game interesting for all the jobs!

[Mirage]

The absolute main problem THF has right now is not TH gear, its the THFs that continuously want to make a fight as long as possible to proc TH up. Even if dev's go with this TH Gear cap solution, I can promise everyone that the new weapons of choice are going to be Twilight Knife/Merc. Kris, to purposely make NMs last as long as possible. If this is going to be implemented PLEASE make it so iLvl weapons affect the chance of procing TH. On higher difficulty fights a THF would choose a higher lvl weapon so that would be moot point, but the main reason players use THF are to farm fodder NM drops. Please tie in TH procs with ilvl!

Tying TH upgrade rate to your average iLv actually isn't a bad idea. Let TH gear decide the starting level and iLv the upgrade rate.

[Dragoy]

Pretty sure they said awhile ago that if you take off any TH gear your TH goes down in effectiveness on the target, even if you hit them with higher level TH

I thought it was like so, for example:

• Engage (and/or attack/use an ability against) a target while possessing treasure hunter level 5.
• Remove any equipment that enhances the effect, resulting into the level being 5 still, but the chance of it going higher from that will be lower.

[Karbuncle]

its as you described Dragoy.

Trreasure hunter cannot be lowered on the enemy. If you hit with 7, then switch to 3, its still 7. Your chances of raising it past 7 will be based on a TH3 though.

See, the further you are from your current TH level in gear/JT, the harder it is to upgrade TH - Stupid design personally - but thems the breaks.