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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagato View Post
    Currently, the best armor setup for a DRK is AF3+2 Head, body and hands with Ace's pants and feet to TP in. Twilight Head and Body for WS use.

    Everything after that is just the best haste and ATK or Store TP items you can get for TP-gain and the best ATK and STR items you can get for WS.

    ACC no longer matters.
    How do you figure accuracy not mattering anymore? Atma? I'm sure you know that only works in Abyssea (yay for stating the obvious). So...

    ACE'S HOSE
    DEF: 29
    Attack+12
    Accuracy-10
    Haste+4%

    ACE'S SABATONS
    DEF: 24
    Attack+8
    Accuracy-4
    "Store TP"+5
    Haste+3%

    HOMAM COSCIALES
    DEF: 35
    HP+26
    MP+26
    Accuracy+3
    Enhances "Fast Cast" effect
    Haste+3%

    HOMAM GAMBIERAS
    DEF: 16
    HP+31
    MP+31
    Accuracy+6
    Ranged Accuracy+6
    Haste+3%
    Wyvern: HP+50

    Either pair, plus a Velocious Belt, Bale Burgeonet +2, Bale Gauntlets +2, and Bale Cuirass +2 grants maximum equipment Haste. It just depends on whether you favor Attack or HP/MP/Accuracy more, I guess.
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    Accuracy is worthless on most monsters inside Abyssea on a 2H job with Razed Ruins + Cruor Buffs, which is true. You can equip around and possibly more than -40 accuracy and still have capped hit rate inside. Outside content it doesn't matter as much due to level correction but you might want to take off some -accuracy depending on if you're using any or not.

    It's possible to get dominion trophy pants with 4% haste augment but they're very rare, but no -accuracy from ace's.
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    I can't say it any better than Mojo. Unless your fight time is always the same, as well as your surrounding and the damage each person deals, you will always benefit eventually from having a lower delay. There are too many factors that will change who deals the killing blow. There is not a way to always get the killing blow, but there are ways to increase your chance of getting it, and lowering your delay is one of them.

    As far as Torcleaver goes, it is superior than Quietus by quite a bit (you can do the math). However, since Quietus does have better modifier, and that Redemption has higher base damage than Torcleaver, the gap is closed a bit. Coupling that with the fact that most ppl have this disillusion that they are capped in pDIF when it is not the case and the 10% ignore defense at 100% make Quietus seem or look like the better of the two WSs. Comparing a 5 hit Redemption and a 6 hit Caladbolg, which are essentially the same build on TP (.5% short of capped haste), Redemption will WSs slightly more (like 7% or something), so whether that makes it better than Caladbolg is up for debate.

    First post in this forum btw. I like how ppl are making suggestions for DRK. I did a few scanning of the JP DRK forum here, and they definitely see the same thing as we do. Faster casting time, stronger absorb, not decaying over time, shorter casting time for dreadspike and making it last longer (since you have a cap on how much you can absorb already, what's the point of making it 1 min is their point), longer LR duration with perhaps less JA haste given as trade off, adjustment to souleater to make it more user and MP friendly etc etc. I must say I am one of those who enjoy reading ppl's idea, even though some are unrealistic, but I suppose SE reads this forum so if they can pick up a couple of the ideas, that will be more than enough.

    Plus it is nice to see familiar faces here. I see that a lot of the hardcore DRKs here.
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    DRK | PLD | BLM | RDM | DRG

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Accuracy is worthless on most monsters inside Abyssea on a 2H job with Razed Ruins + Cruor Buffs, which is true. You can equip around and possibly more than -40 accuracy and still have capped hit rate inside. Outside content it doesn't matter as much due to level correction but you might want to take off some -accuracy depending on if you're using any or not.

    It's possible to get dominion trophy pants with 4% haste augment but they're very rare, but no -accuracy from ace's.
    Are you definitely positive with that? may you provide a SS of the pants before I use all my trophies for one. I am currently using Ace's Hose for my Caladbolg 6 hit, but I just hate the -10 accuracy, and I know once we move out of abyssea I am going to need those accuracy back, assuming harder mobs outside and without atma and cruor boost. I know the DRG/BST pants can have 4% haste on them cuz I have a pair, so I assume you are not confused with that one. Let me know. Thank you.
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    Returner - Formerly known as Nameless

    Ragnarok - TheExpendables

    DRK | PLD | BLM | RDM | DRG

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    Actually, think that was DRG pants sorry, might have gotten them mixed up... I know I tried for haste on the hands but didn't see any and the wiki hasn't been properly updated since 2007...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Accuracy is worthless on most monsters inside Abyssea on a 2H job with Razed Ruins + Cruor Buffs, which is true. You can equip around and possibly more than -40 accuracy and still have capped hit rate inside. Outside content it doesn't matter as much due to level correction but you might want to take off some -accuracy depending on if you're using any or not.

    It's possible to get dominion trophy pants with 4% haste augment but they're very rare, but no -accuracy from ace's.
    Thank you for that. I think I'll enjoy getting a Velocious Belt, but upgrading the Bale Armor Set? That will take some time. So will my Redemption.

    I think, to be on the safe side, I'd get both the Ace's and Homam pairs I mentioned. I can switch between them depending on where I'm fighting, I guess. Ace's Hose/Sabatons for Abyssea, and Homam for non-Abyssea. That just leaves getting a new grip, ammo, crossbow (I know our marksmanship skill sucks, but I like having options), and so forth.
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    thanks nameless for that info about cala vs redemption. I was shying away from redemption for hope that they're going to fix my apoc that i've had for god knows forever -_-, plus I've always been a gsword enthusiast. I just enjoy elvaan gsword animation and ws animation lol

    My only fear with all this talk about magic is SE completely ignoring the DD/melee side of our dilemma and just shoving magic down our throats. But, for the record I agree almost universally with the magic fixes that have been listed.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, we don't really need "new" stuff just our old stuff fixed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Returner View Post
    Are you definitely positive with that? may you provide a SS of the pants before I use all my trophies for one. I am currently using Ace's Hose for my Caladbolg 6 hit, but I just hate the -10 accuracy, and I know once we move out of abyssea I am going to need those accuracy back, assuming harder mobs outside and without atma and cruor boost. I know the DRG/BST pants can have 4% haste on them cuz I have a pair, so I assume you are not confused with that one. Let me know. Thank you.
    with ace's hose here's how I look at it, with homam do i have to drop goading for vbelt to maintain capped haste (this also goes for the hoard/blitz rings) with ace's hose I can maintain capped gear haste and go for a 5 hit with my apoc. (i haven't looked into calabolg builds yet to maintain a proper 6 hit so in that regard i'm clueless)

    it is a bit careless to say "you have capped accuracy at all times" but from parses i've run in abyssea this seems to be true. Is this completely definitive? Of course not, just some input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dart View Post
    with ace's hose here's how I look at it, with homam do i have to drop goading for vbelt to maintain capped haste (this also goes for the hoard/blitz rings) with ace's hose I can maintain capped gear haste and go for a 5 hit with my apoc. (i haven't looked into calabolg builds yet to maintain a proper 6 hit so in that regard i'm clueless)

    it is a bit careless to say "you have capped accuracy at all times" but from parses i've run in abyssea this seems to be true. Is this completely definitive? Of course not, just some input.
    Honestly, I was excluding Haste from all other equipment, if any. Basically, though, the two Homam pieces is Haste+6%, the three Bale Armor +2 pieces are collectively Haste+14%, and that leaves the Velocious Belt, which is Haste+6%. In total, that's Haste+26%, which is cap, right? Well, the two Ace's pieces is Haste+7% in total, which is obviously even more than cap. That's why I pointed out the preference issue between Attack and everything Homam offers.

    This being said, though, I freely admit I'm bad at the math involved. I basically just follow guidelines based on what the experts use.

    Until my Redemption is done (because I honestly just don't like using an A- weapon when the A+ weapon is available), I'm kind of stuck with the Moliones's Sickle and Ring. I'm honestly not sure what ammo and grip to get. I'm fairly certain about what else I'm getting, though. Basically, what I have kind of sucks.

    Moliones's Sickle/Pole Grip/X/Bomb Core
    Perle Salade/Chivalrous Chain or Parade Gorget/Abyssal Earring/Coral Earring
    Perle Hauberk/Perle Moufles/Ecphoria Ring/Moliones's Ring
    Forager's Mantle/Potent Belt/Perle Brayettes/Perle Solerets

    What ammo and grip should I get? I obviously plan on getting the Bale Choker, Bale Earring, Velocious Belt, and Atheling's Mantle, plus all the visible gear I mentioned already.
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    Goading is fine if it helps xhit, the last .4% isn't that big a deal.
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