Every game I played has PVP ... including this. Brenner and ballista dont seem to be common anymore. In order to make it fair play and incorperate into this game better (not saying im right or wrong). Why not introduce a zone based sorta like we have not with Gelsba's pvp area but do it on a scale of this. Introduce it to the collusiem zone. Where you can go or stay away from(Alot of Mmorgs have arena based PVP) to incoperate people who dont like or like it. Have it where you can go in do party alliance or party and not hit them and a free for all zone. Incoperating points and items whould give people more insperation into wanting to go this. You could have a entrance free safe zone at the begining (sorta like abby has). I see it like this .... Why should I have to play another game when I play this. Espeicaly since FFXI does have a sytem it just isnt used much if at all anymore. I would still reomend using the idea of penalizing people who swap gear in the middle of fighting. Also another idea is to give points for Ko'ing people that can be turned into items. This would offer people insperation to go as for now trhere isnt much other than "fun". I would love to see SE change this. Mutiple aspects could be incoperated in it also u can thow monsters in there that attack people also at same time. Single team or a free for all area.