PVP!

[Zeh]

if there aren't enough people on any particular server to do Ballista regularly, it may get people to migrate to a server where Ballista is more popular.

Actually, Ballista is still going strong on Lakshmi. I realize that there aren't many valid sources for Ballista updates these days, but I can provide a few. I posted this on the Allakhazam forums a while back, so I'll just copy and paste.

http://war.allakhazam.com/forum.html...20088932908306

"The only reliable NA sources for Ballista are:

* http://www.youtube.com/user/deshi0
* http://vyiv.wordpress.com/

As for JP sources, there used to be several websites for updates, but many of those players have stopped playing. I suppose this one is decent, but I wouldn't place 100% trust in its content:

* http://leban.blog113.fc2.com/
EDIT: The owner quit recently, but it's still an interesting Ballista site to take a look at.


This website used to be good (as it had a relatively updated cross-server Ballista database), but I think the owner, like many other veterans, stopped playing:

* http://www.h6.dion.ne.jp/~oka.zi-4/

If anyone else has other valid recommendations, please feel free to post."

[Miiyo]

PvP? pfft. why break hearts unneccesarily. blm one shot you all with firaja 3 and fire staff.

[Alhanelem]

PvP? pfft. why break hearts unneccesarily. blm one shot you all with firaja 3 and fire staff.

That doesn't happen. All damage is reduced in PvP. And even still, that has a long cast time. It's pretty easy to run over to the BLM and beat him up while he's casting. For a BLM to do well, he has to suprise people by casting on people that are already busy fighting so they won't notice the "starts casting on you" message.

[Harukusan]

That doesn't happen. All damage is reduced in PvP. And even still, that has a long cast time. It's pretty easy to run over to the BLM and beat him up while he's casting. For a BLM to do well, he has to suprise people by casting on people that are already busy fighting so they won't notice the "starts casting on you" message.

Chat filters can fix the problem pointed out here about "not noticing the 'starts casting' message.'"

As a BLM, whether you're alone or with your team, Sleepga is your best friend. Assuming your opponents didn't use a poison potion, they are pretty much stuck there punching themselves in the face wishing they could tear that BLM to pieces. If you catch an opponent alone, you (the BLM) have a good chance at nuking him down before his teammates can get to him, so long as you don't fool around with unnecessary spells, just Sleep > Gravity > Dispel to test if he has buffs > Nuke. If he wants to use a Catholicon to erase his weight effect, no problem! Just Sleep him again! Or make use of Bind or Stun or anything really... BLM has so many ways to stop someone from getting to them it's already "broken" as it is, but that's how it goes.

Lesson 1) Always bring Poison Potions. You won't always be lucky enough to dig them up!

Lesson 2) Unless you have a super magic defense or MDB set on, or have already built a strong resistance to debuffs, don't try to attack the BLM if you are alone! Certain jobs have a much greater chance at survival (or killing him), but I'm speaking particularly about jobs that have to be up close to attack, and have no way to stop them from moving (eg: WAR or SAM).

I think a lot of jobs have been able to put SCH sub to use for enfeebling enemies. In fact, a lot of people who subbed RDM got lucky many times with me in the past...

[Renesmay]

I definintly vote for PvP we have evrything else why not make a flag systme or a special area just for PvP. I also think that PvP would greatly help some of the arguments that rise against players. Instead of verbally taking out their agression they can just fight it out in the PvP area. Make it to where you can chose a group one on one or even linkshell PvP. Make the price reasonable since we know it wouldn't be free. And available for jobs 15+ low level jobs dont have anything fun to get into like the higher jobs lol.

[JagerForrester]

This game is too group-oriented against the beastmen to really throw in an actual battlefield where adventurers of different nations fight against each other for control. The settings are still set after a war, and Ballista was introduced as a friendly PvP game against the nations. If you want PvP, go set up a linkshell with other players willing to PvP on a regular basis.

[Vinceroth]

PvP being revived would be fun, but at the same time, like many have stated, what would we get in return for doing it? I've played WoW for years just like FF11 and it seems FF may never be able to keep up with the players needs/wants for PvP and PvE. WoW constantly nerfs their classes bc one becomes more OP than the other, and it would happen the same with FF11. Once a person figures out the perfect combo to wreck havic to everyone blizz would nerf it and make it suck even more PvE. Since ff centers sololy around PvE that would cause many problems. Spell casters would get own bc the lack of being able to run around and nuke, melee's would always run the battles and it would become too one sided. So the lack of PvP is a good thing, but it will always suck for those that are for reviving it.

[Damage]

The lack of PvP on FFXI is what made me give up my oath to never MMO again. That's been a couple of years now and I'm perfectly happy that I rarely hear the phrase PvP on here.

Beefing it up would result in EVERY minor argument turning into people threatening for a while, then fighting, wasting other people's time and just generally giving people reasons to be a pain.

It's about team work here, not Me vs. You !

[Selzak]

An arena-type thing (which I was sure they were doing when ToaU came out) would be really cool. PVP is some of the most fun I've had on this game, but to make it fun you need a handful of like-minded individuals in Diorama or something who are willing to set up little 1v1, 2v2, etc. battles just for the sake of it.

They should introduce something where you can enter a small arena-type thing, adjust settings, players, etc. and duke it out in front of an audience. The little mini-games underneath the PVP we have now are just obstructing.

[Alhanelem]

The problem with this is lack of interest on most servers.

This is largely because of the lack of reward. No special items, just a bit of gil, a miniscule amount of EXP, and a title. And an achievement on the Xbox 360.

If you could get some items, even if they were only useful for PvP, interest would be higher.

If they continued to have the tournaments, interest would be higher. The winners in that DID get exclusive items- effectively the rarest in the game.

If they deleted these events for more worthwhile updates, it would benefit the game as a whole.

Removing old content does not accellerate development of new content. Ballista requires a miniscule amount of disk space. The two special areas for it are exact copies of existing areas and thus re-use the same textures at no additional space cost.

They should not delete something because it's unpopular. They should do something to make it more popular, or they should just leave it alone, so those people who do like it can still have it.

Why do people do PvP (on PvE servers) in WoW? Because they get stuff for it. It's not the best stuff, so it doesnt harm PvE (and often the stuff they get is specifically for PvP). If you removed the rewards for battlegrounds in WoW, people would stop doing it almost instantly.