PS2 limitation new Zone solution.

[NightDagger]

Nephilipitou,

Thanks for that little burp. I can not play on a PC as I own a Mac. i play on a 360, would play on PS3 if I could. I do still own a PS2 & also use that if a friend comes over & wants to play. The fact that you are unable to accept the fact that PS2 only limits the game in a manner you see fit is irrelevant.

The graphics are 10x better on the 360 then PS2, so how is PS2 limiting that? I am sure they could add new area's & will do so without telling us the PS2 is limiting them from that as well. There are really very little the PS2 is limiting & i do not know how you can have an argument with someone about a game that is 9 years old & expect it to look like a game that is 1 years old. Cause I own a 2001 jeep should I expect dodge to upgrade me cause I am unable to do the things a 2010 jeep can? If you are that unhappy with how a game looks & plays then go play something more recent. Heck I still play FFVII on my PS3 but am not complaining that the graphics suck & they should upgrade these for me.

[rog]

i do not know how you can have an argument with someone about a game that is 9 years old & expect it to look like a game that is 1 years old. Cause I own a 2001 jeep should I expect dodge to upgrade me cause I am unable to do the things a 2010 jeep can?

If you pay dodge a monthly fee to keep it updated, then yes, you should.

[NightDagger]

If you pay dodge a monthly fee to keep it updated, then yes, you should.

but they can change the PC code to justify this problem without having to worry about PS2 limitations. The codes are different & it is just the fact they can't be bothered to tweak them to allow more depth for the PC or 360.

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

[Ilax]

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

there a limit on tweaking, 32meg of ram, i think is enough said right there, is already amazing they got able to go that far with only that.

[rog]

there a limit on tweaking, 32meg of ram, i think is enough said right there, is already amazing they got able to go that far with only that.

Except only the ps2 version needs to run within 32 mb of ram. The pc version already does not even come close to that, usually taking 3-5x more.

[Ilax]

Except only the ps2 version needs to run within 32 mb of ram. The pc version already does not even come close to that, usually taking 3-5x more.

They do because Game take advantage of extra memory, but it could run as low as 32 meg ram available too -.-

[NightDagger]

Except only the ps2 version needs to run within 32 mb of ram. The pc version already does not even come close to that, usually taking 3-5x more.

Yeah do people think they just took the PS2 version of the game and reformatted it for PC & 360?

They have made a lot of adjustments to make it run more smoothly on PC & the 360. Heck my 360 freezes after running the game for 8+ hours, I have to hook my ipod up to it and play music in order for the system to read the disc again. This a code issue with the 360 that has been around for awhile now but they have yet to rectify this.

Your PC is using more then 32mb of Ram to play the game. So to blame everything on the 32 mb ram the PS2 has is nuts.

OK the PS2 may not be able to handle alot of the upgrades people want, but they could change that for PC & 360 players. Now adding new area's that PS2 players can not access is just wrong though.

[Nephilipitou]

Your PC is using more then 32mb of Ram to play the game. So to blame everything on the 32 mb ram the PS2 has is nuts.

Wrong it's not nuts. What the PS2 can do limits what the PC and 360 versions can handle due to the fact that they all have to play together which means that there are things that could be done on the PC and 360 versions that could not be accomplished due to PS2 compatibility issues.

Not adding places at all because PS2 players wouldn't be able to go there, is just wrong. Way more wrong. More people are effected, there's less of a reason for it, and everyone suffers rather than just some.

It'd be like saying "Ok class the field trip to China is cancelled because one of the student's parents religion is against us going there. So none of us are allowed to go"

[rog]

but they can change the PC code to justify this problem without having to worry about PS2 limitations. The codes are different & it is just the fact they can't be bothered to tweak them to allow more depth for the PC or 360.

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

So, you're one of the .1% of people that actually have some idea of what limitations are actually imposed by the ps2? Gotcha.

[Nephilipitou]

but they can change the PC code to justify this problem without having to worry about PS2 limitations. The codes are different & it is just the fact they can't be bothered to tweak them to allow more depth for the PC or 360.

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

Not true. what so ever. Auto-translate is a feature that is not upgraded because if they added more words PS2 players wouldn't be able to see them, and that's part of the problem, because people in Japan play on PS2 more often than PC, and we're trying to communicate largely with Japanese players so that there's less of a communication barrier when trying to do quests. Square Enix said flat out that they have to delete words in Auto-Translate in order to add more words into it.

That's just a simple demonstration of PS2 limitations effecting everyone. A French Player and an American player who don't understand each others languages have a harder time communicating that could be alleviated from more auto-translate.

Those are just a library of words, it's not even rendering ANYTHING. There is no graphical issue, the RAM issue is limited, but it's a clear definable demonstration of how the PS2 is holding back the other version and how this would not be rectifiable. There are plenty of other examples, but then again if I explain them they'd go over your heads.

Here's a hint. It has to do with databases and other such underlying architecture.