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  1. #31
    Player Kaeoni's Avatar
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    Look on the bright side, you can still charm kite Kirin~ yipee!
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  2. #32
    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeoni View Post
    Look on the bright side, you can still charm kite Kirin~ yipee!
    With my +72eva! Whooo!
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  3. #33
    Player Bookong's Avatar
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    Sylph
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    BST Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Chocobits View Post
    I think George Michael might have something to say about this:

    I feel soo sore
    As I dump this macro to the floor
    As my charm set dies, it's really no surprise..
    With TEARS in my EYES, I tell my light staff "GOOD BYYYYYE!"

    Ohhh I'm never gonna CHARM again!
    This gimped JA's worse than it's ever been.
    Though it's easy to pretend
    That it sometimes Binds..

    I SHOULD'VE known better than to CHARM again
    This BIND effect don't PROC on NMs
    So I'm never gonna charm again
    Because of Abyssea

    A moment of silence for Charm.. and my really terrible compositions..
    *-* BLOODY AWESOME!
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  4. #34
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    For me bst was a cheap class. I do love the new jugs, don't think anyone will disagree with that. But i do agree the charm job ability isn't used any more any pet that would compare to the new juags you can't charm. I would like to see charmable mobs in abyssea and other areas
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  5. #35
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    yeah bring on the charmable mobs! I haven't done Abyssea yet but making bst 75+ all about jugs just makes it really expensive and takes away a lot of what it means to be a bst.

    I just got to 51 today (first ever limit break) and as someone who is grinding bst up on the outside, it really does seem like a shame that charm is pointless inside abyssea.
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  6. #36
    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Xilkk
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    BST Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    yeah bring on the charmable mobs! I haven't done Abyssea yet but making bst 75+ all about jugs just makes it really expensive and takes away a lot of what it means to be a bst.

    I just got to 51 today (first ever limit break) and as someone who is grinding bst up on the outside, it really does seem like a shame that charm is pointless inside abyssea.

    charming was dead before abyssea and the level cap increase. Dynamis, Limbus, Einherjar, Nyzul, Sea, at least 1 zone in sky had something charmable...
    Abyssea just makes the contrast painfully blatent. Its full of TONS of mobs. They respawn quickly, they are everywhere, and most of them are normal mobs.... and we cannnot charm them at all...
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    --Beastmaster Forever--

  7. #37
    Player Cream_Soda's Avatar
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    Tigerwoods
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    Sylph
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    MNK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    job threads are not suggestion threads.
    OP was a question, not a suggestion
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  8. #38
    Player Gotterdammerung's Avatar
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    Charm is being weened out. Its a balance thing and its been happening for a while now. As the lvls increase the monsters that must be created to challenge the players grow exponentially in power. Having an ability to make these monsters fight for you rapidly becomes overpowered. As it stands, even now with just jug pets there is very little bst can't solo. If charm was allowed in abyssea, instantly everything would not only be soloable, but be extremely easy to solo. Heres a good example. Bukhis. An NM that is regarded as un-soloable by a bst (not including brew) would instantly become a joke when he ran into an army of handy nearby bats.

    It just isnt balanced to have a job that will eventually (by 99) be able to throw 10k hp local fauna endlessly at an NM until it gives up.

    Luckily, instead of just taking it away from us, they gave us a very needed and useful boost to our jug pets. I think they chose jug pets because they can better control the stats and abilities available to us.

    In my opinion OP, no you will not ever charm again in an endgame setting. If u miss the charm playstyle there is still outlets for that desire via the new monsters added with each update in old zones. I personally visit these places occasionally for nostalgia's sake. But i dont predict charm being valuable in any event of real importance. I use it as a hate tool and thats about all its good for in endgame.
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  9. #39
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    how about getting a rare/ex "empty" jug. On that can be filled by using charm on an aby mob, (with a normal jug pet out to take up the damage) filling the jug to say 5-10 charges. Then to be able to use that rare/ex jug to crowd control mobs around NM's or such in aby. Eh just a thought, would need more details but I think it's a start of the bst job being more then just a warrior with a pet.

    my two gil...
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  10. #40
    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haglaz View Post
    how about getting a rare/ex "empty" jug. On that can be filled by using charm on an aby mob, (with a normal jug pet out to take up the damage) filling the jug to say 5-10 charges. Then to be able to use that rare/ex jug to crowd control mobs around NM's or such in aby. Eh just a thought, would need more details but I think it's a start of the bst job being more then just a warrior with a pet.

    my two gil...
    There's another thread for that. No need to derail this one to make all the threads talk about 1 thing.
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    Choh Moui | Rongo-Nango | Lhu Mhakaracca | Lungo-Nango | Nyumomo
    --Beastmaster Forever--

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