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    Player Traxus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I think the idea about making an item that can dispense them works fine. They are rare / ex anyways right? I mean it's not like you can sell them.
    SE updated the r/ex conquest ammos to work this way many years ago; rather than buy the ammo, you buy a r/ex quiver than dispenses the r/ex ammo on 1 week cooldown. Idk why they gave up on this concept...
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traxus View Post
    SE updated the r/ex conquest ammos to work this way many years ago; rather than buy the ammo, you buy a r/ex quiver than dispenses the r/ex ammo on 1 week cooldown. Idk why they gave up on this concept...
    Seriously, why even a week cool down? It could be like one hour. I don't think someone using R/E bullet for one shot once per hour is going to break any content. Really anything along those lines would be better than just losing it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Accidents happen? Hell why would you need a 1 time item recovery in the first place? Everyone makes mistakes, I have seen screenshots of people who accidently dropped things from Defending Rings to RMEs and so on, its not that impossible, but it is a mistake, and if you do such a thing by accident it would really bite you in the ass to have used up this 1 time recovery on something as simple and easy as a bullet.
    yes but your example specified that you droped it because you thought the RME was useless... if your going to make an example to correct me on then you better make sure your specfic to what your trying to makea point of. anyways im out although i can feel your pain...... OP a long time ago I had accidentally thrown a grenade you got as a quest item in WOTG was pretty decent for drg at the time and GM would not replace it because i couldn't remember the time i had thrown it... anyways im out of this thread and OP you are justified in your recovery of thisw item... although be more careful next time... there is a reason why SE lets them get destroyed. they are very powerful bullets and arrows
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umichi View Post
    yes but your example specified that you droped it because you thought the RME was useless... if your going to make an example to correct me on then you better make sure your specfic to what your trying to makea point of.
    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Many more important things than a single bullet to use a 1 time recovery on. If you drop a RME120 later on after the update & whatever crazy ass thing they want us to do for it has already been done, you would need it for that. If it were truly a 1 time thing at that point, which would you rather do? Remake a RME99+ or redo a Wildskeeper Reive?

    Its only a matter of basically saying not to waste it, not that you should not do it, or should not get it back.
    Please do me the favor of showing me where I said that this was in an instance of which you dropped it due to lack of use right now due to being outclassed by delve weapons.

    This post was only meaning that if you dropped it for whatever reason, you would later regret not being able to recover it due to it being used on something like a bullet. If your gonna use it, use it on something priceless, something that would be horrible to have to do again, in my opinion, Hurkan, isn't to bad, and isn't on that level.


    there is a reason why SE lets them get destroyed. they are very powerful bullets and arrows
    So let me get this straight, since its powerful, it should be easy to lose by mistake and we should have no way to recover it? That's like saying every time I WS with my RME weapon there should be a .1% chance that my weapon will break & shatter so that I lose it, but its powerful, that's why SE let it get destroyed. No, an items power should have nothing to do with anything, its an item they made to be situational, no way around that, on top of it you have a flawed, slow, out of date macro system which allows it to occasionally be shot, when the bullet of choice came from Akvan it was horrible, but at least you could spam him all day, now its just getting worse.

    Your justification here, was horrible, and in my opinion its even worse seeing as your someone who did something similar, yet think it was apparently ok, and that SE has some sort of reasonable ideals as to why it should be such a way.
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    ummm the bullet still drops off of an nm does it not? the bullet does massive damage.. why should SE allow you to keep an item that you can get over and over again when you accidentally mess up and shoot it, doesn't it create incentive to do the content again?
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umichi View Post
    ummm the bullet still drops off of an nm does it not? the bullet does massive damage.. why should SE allow you to keep an item that you can get over and over again when you accidentally mess up and shoot it, doesn't it create incentive to do the content again?
    Because if they didn't they would be complete jerks? Because it's a super lame way for this to work?

    Why should they let you keep your stuff when you get KO'd? Why should they not just delete your character and make you start over? The game still exists does it not? You can re-level / re-gear over and over. Why shouldn't they make you do so?
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    Version Update (03/22/2010)
    The reward items obtainable with Conquest Points have been altered as follows:

    Grand Knight's arrow -> Temple Knight's quiver
    Gold Musketeer's bolt -> Iron Musketeer's quiver
    Patriarch Protector's arrow -> Combat Caster's quiver



    *These new enchanted items can produce ammunition with identical attributes to the former items. *Players possessing the former items may trade them to a Conquest Overseer to receive the new items.

    FFXI - 1 step forward, 3 steps back. They should a done this with all the random Abyssea Rare/Ex Ammo, the bullet from the Amphiptere in Xarcabard (S), as well as that Voidwatch Bullet and now Hurkan's bullet... Oh well.
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    Last edited by Garota; 08-01-2013 at 08:45 AM. Reason: Added image.

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    At the very least, it should be made possible to mail this bullet to yourself if that isn't already the case.

    That would make it a little less pointless to do Hurkan over and over in hopes of getting something that isn't the bullet or the grip. Just a little. Just the tiniest bit.
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    Player Kristal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    At the very least, it should be made possible to mail this bullet to yourself if that isn't already the case.

    That would make it a little less pointless to do Hurkan over and over in hopes of getting something that isn't the bullet or the grip. Just a little. Just the tiniest bit.
    You can account-mail the bullet, did it myself. I think only the bayld items cannot be send to mules.
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    Last edited by Kristal; 07-30-2013 at 05:06 PM.
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    On Monday I contacted the GM service and was greeted by the kind SGM Ektakus.

    We discussed this topic, and he admitted it was far too easy to lose these kinds of items. He also informed me that others have also had this bullet restored. I told him of the ideas that were discussed in this topic and he agreed they were good ideas.

    Then after a nice little chat, he sent me to Mordion Gaol. I had only ever seen this area in videos, and it was the first time Kylos had ever seen these four walls since 2004. He created the bullet for me, and asked me if i had it in my inventory. It was really nice to see it back in my inventory.

    As I begin using my Corsair more, I am going to take steps that the nice people here have put forward.

    1) Use /equip ammo in all macros to ensure the Bullet is unequipped after each Quick Draw, and before any WS or Ranged Attack macro.

    2) Make absolutely sure I never manually type /ra <t> or manually click on the Ranged Attack option.

    3) If I ever do Hurkan again, send the bullet to my mule for the possibility of having more than one bullet.

    Even though I will be taking these steps, it is still possible to fire this bullet due to server lag missing out on a command, like someone stated on a previous page. It is easy to say "just don't shoot it", but a bullet is meant to be shot, and it is always possible no matter how safe you are.

    SGM Ektakus did not inform me that this was the first and only time I could use this service. I believe in certain circumstances where SE has created such an item that can be used so easily, it is not entirely the players fault, and they will let you off. I think if I accidentally drop a relic a few years down the line, the GMs would not use this incident against me. Therefore I had every right to use this restore option, and unlike others who I know who are trying to get their bullet back the proper way, I was not prepared to farm the bayld, and spend many hours for the chance to receive something I had already achieved legitimately.

    For those of you who have accidentally shot the bullet, call a GM asap and inform them of the time you lost it. They will investigate and restore it for you. It was nice to spend a little time in prison with an SGM, I was a little sad that he did not also give me a 99 Apocalypse with afterglow that I requested, but I suppose you can't have everything

    Peace.
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