Incentive for players to help with delve key item NMs

[Damane]

See, I thought about this myself. I think for T1~3 they should give 2.5k Plasm, while T4~5 should give 3250 Plasm, 5 times the amount of now. It would not allow people to really spam these for easier Plasm. Also, change the guaranteed drop system, inside of a fracture, it should be a chance, outside it should be a guaranteed drop. By doing these you make the outside battles more rewarding, inside you only kill NMs for either a small Plasm spike with some extra drops, like Mata, or your going for the boss. In the case of going for the boss, you would be getting 30~70k Plasm from the boss itself I think, so you are talking about getting a much larger gain that way anyways. The items being a 100% drop inside when its more of a side thing is kinda dumb, it should be a 100% outside because your going out of your way to fight them I think.

In either case, I agree, and I would like to see the rewards changed to be better as to get more people to help out.

that makes no sense, you can get KIs inside or outside. for people that dont have KIs inside is the better option. They have more time on the fight itself (45 min instead of 20 min on T1-3 and 30 min insead fo 20 min for T4-T5), they only need to get clean pulls and if they defeated it they get a 100% item drop. I dont see the fuzz about this, delve should allways be done inside no matter what the target/goal is, outside is really only for bead farming (that are not anymore needed anyway!).

[Zumi]

that makes no sense, you can get KIs inside or outside. for people that dont have KIs inside is the better option. They have more time on the fight itself (45 min instead of 20 min on T1-3 and 30 min insead fo 20 min for T4-T5), they only need to get clean pulls and if they defeated it they get a 100% item drop. I dont see the fuzz about this, delve should allways be done inside no matter what the target/goal is, outside is really only for bead farming (that are not anymore needed anyway!).

I have actually asked someone who was making a shout group for outside fights once why don't they do it inside. Because they said its takes more time to get everyone to the spot so you run out of time. Which really is more of a lack of organization then anything.

[Hawklaser]

I have actually asked someone who was making a shout group for outside fights once why don't they do it inside. Because they said its takes more time to get everyone to the spot so you run out of time. Which really is more of a lack of organization then anything.

I disagree on that being a lack of organization. I side on the time issue, not because the person doing it runs out of time, but who knows how many members of the run. As all it takes for a shout group to fall apart is the wrong person leaving at the wrong time. Has nothing to do with the organization, but with everyone's schedules not being identical.

[OmnysValefor]

I have actually asked someone who was making a shout group for outside fights once why don't they do it inside. Because they said its takes more time to get everyone to the spot so you run out of time. Which really is more of a lack of organization then anything.

Well, if it's t4/t5 like kurma, it takes time to knock out the first 3 nms. Plus there's the havoc of how to handle the trash. If you have a solid dd/pld in a dt kit, they can grab everything but you still need people to stick together. You'll waste 20/45 minutes before you even get to t4/t5 and then you have to hope the NM you're after is the one you encounter.

That means having to explain the strats for 4 nm's, rather than one, and keep people from ragequitting when the randoms screw it up.

Alternatively, of course, you can just wait the 15 mins, while people try to stay alive, and go find the nm. I wouldn't want to do either with a pug.