Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[Valefor4life]

Untill u bother to lvl blm and 2 shot nuke an abyssea mob without having to rest for mp your a leech. If you still need to exp your a leech. Cause you should be cruor farming instead.

[rog]

oh please get over yourself.... everyone had to start in Abyssea at some point, you have to be trolling, because if your not, then you are really ignorant.

I dunno, i thought he was being a little too lenient.

[Ritsuka]

lol you don't think leaching from 30 on up is good enough? There's enough crapy players as is they don't need to lower the aby level cap. If anything they need to raise up higher. Its a sad day an Vanadiel when high ranked player doesn't mean anything now adays. I remember when you seen a high level player you new they where good at there job. But now i see lvl 80 players that dont know jack about there job.

[Flunklesnarkin]

lol you don't think leaching from 30 on up is good enough? There's enough crapy players as is they don't need to lower the aby level cap. If anything they need to raise up higher. Its a sad day an Vanadiel when high ranked player doesn't mean anything now adays. I remember when you seen a high level player you new they where good at there job. But now i see lvl 80 players that dont know jack about there job.

I use to think everybody high level was competent at their job.. way back when my highest level was 50

After reaching lvl 75 though, i soon realized level has absolutely no bearing on competence...


I think it just comes down to the person.. call it a video game IQ if you will

If you are bad at video games.. you will be bad at your job no matter how you level

If you are good at video games.. you will take the time to learn how to play/gear/skill up your job no matter how you level.

[magnius]

Its a sad day an Vanadiel when high ranked player doesn't mean anything now adays. I remember when you seen a high level player you new they where good at there job. But now i see lvl 80 players that dont know jack about there job.

High ranked meaning high level, I guess? They never meant anything in the first place.

You used to be able to generally determine the skill of a player by the LS they were in. Usually, these skilled LSes only took high level members. Thus the stereotype of being high level meant highly skilled emerged. Don't confuse the difference btwn a high level player who mostly engaged social/endgame events and a high level player who dominated the HNM scene and did more challenging things like AV and PW. I don't speak in absolutes. There are always exceptions, but they are just that -- exceptions. I also don't speak to offend. If you mostly only engaged in social/endgame it doesn't make you a wrong. It's just what you chose to do, nothing wrong with that. But you have to admit, killing stuff like 3Kings, AV and PW took more skills than Kirin, Sea NMs or clearing Dynamis zones.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

eh well I dont see this changeing one way or another, if I have to live with it, I guess I have to lol. I just started playing again about 2 weeks before the shutdown (yeah sucks but shit happens) I have 2 of the first set of three that I have to kill for the quest line, and I am still 75 DRG (was a bit to fast and the LS pretty much tossed me into the fire ;p

I only played for about 4 hours, (honestly not sure how long I was playing) but they seemed to be on a bee line mission, we killed two NMs in one place and then 3 in the other, then just killed stuff in mass till I had to leave.

I felt useless and the LS kept telling me it was ok, but I still felt bad about doing it, I was not even on chest patrol. They just wanted me to stand there and look pretty. Now that I have some starting cuer (did I spell that right?) I will start buying some keys at least to be of some use.

I can understand where both sides are coming from, there is my side (feeling like the game is being ruined) and the other side (likes it like it is) I guess after being gone for a year, it was a bit of a shock to see the game in it's current state.

if it stays the same... will it ruin FFXI? That is honestly a question none of us can answer (and no you really cant)

[magnius]

if it stays the same... will it ruin FFXI? That is honestly a question none of us can answer (and no you really cant)

Can't say for sure. It has been on the downward trend for a while now -- waaaay before Abyssea. So you can't really blame Abyssea. You can say it will continue on a downward trend or just stabilize. I highly doubt it will ever be like it was when the game peaked.

[HFX7686]

if it stays the same... will it ruin FFXI? That is honestly a question none of us can answer (and no you really cant)

I don't think so. It revitalised the game for my friends and I. Gave us something new to do that didn't take hours and hours to do.

[Vivik]

most 75s are useless because of leeching...counterpoint invalid

Most 75 were worthless before abyssea, you point is also invalid.

[Rie]

I don't think it matters that much in what way you get the exp. Whether you grind for countless hours for a few levels, or run back and forth from an NPC to get pages.

None of the 20 jobs we have are rocket science, it doesn't take that long to get skills up to cap, and anyone with half a brain can learn how to play any job with relative ease.

Lets face it, it's not like you're gonna learn the job level synced to 12 in Korroloka Tunnel, or 37 @ East Ronfaure_[S] until lvl70, (which was the 'proposed' change in some other threads here).

I don't see a problem with removing the lvl30 cap, it'd just make it quicker for people to get to max level so they can start merits/skillups.

FFXI ain't hard. Get over yourselves.