New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Tamoa]

That's the idea. Delve weapons are supposed to be the focus. New game content is supposed to be incentivised. That's what makes successful MMOs. Why don't you understand this?

Where's the incentive when gear's going to be replaced every few months? That's not how this game has been working for eleven years, why fix something that's not broken? There are no long term goals anymore, the majority of older events are now pointless to do - so you do Delve to get Delve gear and weapons, to do what? More Delve? Or just stand around looking pretty until the next update hits and you need to go through all that again?

The "S**tstorm" is all in your head, and in the heads of a very small vocal crowd here. Most of the players I've encountered in the game are still having fun, and don't care about RMEs being a little weaker than Delve weapons.

I take it you don't really frequent any other FFXI forums then. And I'm willing to bet the majority of those that don't care about R/M/Es being outclassed, never owned one in the first place (talking 99 versions here). Some R/M/E owners still play, yes - while waiting for SE to fix their weapons. Some have fun too (for now). Some don't care. But the majority do care.

You're overestimating the number of people who you think that would quit the game over something like this, and you're underestimating the profit value of making end game and story content more accessible to a greater number of people. I'd venture to say that any one who quits over something as silly as this will easily be replaced, even if it's an older game. Believe it or not, there are still plenty of people just starting the game. My LS has a recruited a bunch of them.

Actually no, I'm not overestimating anything. And those "plenty of people" you're talking about that just started the game will be outnumbered by the amount of people that have quit or will quit within the very near future. Not only that, but I'm willing to bet most of these newcomers will have quit themselves within less than a year. As for end game content accessible to a greater number of people, I'm all for that and always have been. But right now, Delve is the ONLY damn end game content worth doing.

What's pretty clear to me is that you never had the same kind of dedication to this game as I, and many with me, had. And you're not even willing to TRY looking at it from a different point of view, it's all "it doesn't affect me personally therefore noone else have the right to be upset about it either".

Let me ask you something: Wouldn't it have benefitted the game if SE already had clear plans outlined on how to upgrade R/E/Ms when they introduced Delve weapons? Then they would have made everybody happy by keeping R/E/Ms relevant while ALSO adding easy and good options for those that have no wish to make a R/E/M. How could it have possibly hurt the game if they'd done this instead of what they actually did do?

[Peepiopi]

fun fact.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/relic
Something that has survived the passage of time, especially an object or custom whose original culture has disappeared.
an artifact surviving from the past.
something kept as a remembrance or treasured for its past associations; keepsake.
old items from another time.

no comment...

Lol. So much truth.. A.K.A "Trophies". There is nothing wrong with trophies.

Where's the incentive when gear's going to be replaced every few months? That's not how this game has been working for eleven years, why fix something that's not broken? There are no long term goals anymore, the majority of older events are now pointless to do - so you do Delve to get Delve gear and weapons, to do what? More Delve? Or just stand around looking pretty until the next update hits and you need to go through all that again?

Perhaps that the lack of change over the last 11 years is what has made FFXI fall so far behind other popular MMOs. The new Director is trying to make more effort to improve the the game with quality of life changes, emphasize fresh game content, while making older content more accessible but not required for progression. If you don't like the direction the game is going, then quit! It's very simple.

I promise you that any GOOD game director will pursue new subscribership rather than focus on catering to a stubborn few. Figuratively assuming that new players "probably would" feel the same way as you if only they dredged through the snow uphill both ways just like you did just makes you seem stubborn and set in your ways.

Also. There is PLENTY of stuff to do in this game. If you feel that you have already done everything there is to do in the game, and you do not have any interest in waiting for upcoming patches, then perhaps it really is time for you to take a break indefinitely.

[Afania]

Perhaps that the lack of change over the last 11 years is what has made FFXI fall so far behind other popular MMOs. The new Director is trying to make more effort to improve the the game with quality of life changes, emphasize fresh game content, while making older content more accessible but not required for progression. If you don't like the direction the game is going, then quit! It's very simple.

I promise you that any GOOD game director will pursue new subscribership rather than focus on catering to a stubborn few. Figuratively assuming that new players "probably would" feel the same way as you if only they dredged through the snow uphill both ways just like you did just makes you seem stubborn and set in your ways.

Lol, you have no idea about MMO industry and how it works. A GOOD game director keep sub as large as possible, instead of killing it.

One fact about MMO, unless FFXI gets a relaunch, something like FFXI 2.0, with brand new graphic, marketing, game mechanics, new UI and everything, you're not gonna get new players. Killing REM and make all gears shit every 3 months will never get new players. New players doesn't even give a shit how endgame gear works in a 11 year old MMO. They're going to play new MMOs on the market, not a 11 year old MMO.

[Tamoa]

Perhaps that the lack of change over the last 11 years is what has made FFXI fall so far behind other popular MMOs. The new Director is trying to make more effort to improve the the game with quality of life changes, emphasize fresh game content, while making older content more accessible but not required for progression. If you don't like the direction the game is going, then quit! It's very simple.

I promise you that any GOOD game director will pursue new subscribership rather than focus on catering to a stubborn few. Figuratively assuming that new players "probably would" feel the same way as you if only they dredged through the snow uphill both ways just like you did just makes you seem stubborn and set in your ways.

Please enlighten me to which other MMOs are out there, that have been going for 11 years, with a comparable number of players who're actually willing to PAY to be able to play.

"If you don't like it, then quit." - Don't you see that while the reason people are quitting, doesn't affect you personally, the fact that people are quitting WILL eventually affect you. Less players = less people to do things with. Less subscriptions = less money for SE = less work put into FFXI. That shouldn't be so hard to grasp, I reckon.

I'll guarantee you that more people will quit over SoA than there will be new players joining because of SoA.

By the way you never answered the question I added in my previous post.

[Afania]

Please enlighten me to which other MMOs are out there, that have been going for 11 years, with a comparable number of players who're actually willing to PAY to be able to play.

"If you don't like it, then quit." - Don't you see that while the reason people are quitting, doesn't affect you personally, the fact that people are quitting WILL eventually affect you. Less players = less people to do things with. Less subscriptions = less money for SE = less work put into FFXI. That shouldn't be so hard to grasp, I reckon.

I'll guarantee you that more people will quit over SoA than there will be new players joining because of SoA.

By the way you never answered the question I added in my previous post.

Honestly I'm tired of seeing ppl saying "Game's better this way, because WoW's like that too, and WoW is No.1 MMO!"

Maybe those ppl should go work on a MMO, maybe they'll make a bunch of money selling their games!

Honestly, if making MMO is this easy, we won't see MMOs going F2P or shut down every year. Those ppl just wanted the game they want, without thinking about the consequences. Killing REM has way more negative impact on FFXI than REM owners getting face slapped. And you can already see why subs are dropping. I've got friends who still play, but just refuse to do any long term grind event because they don't want to get face slapped again. In XI if you don't have a long term grind goal, it's way too easy to quit when new games are out or rl gets busy.