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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    It could be useful in Delve also remember that using Myrkr, you do not need to engage enemy from close range . You can engage from as far as you like and use the WS as long as you are engaged in battle with weapon out. Therefore during T5 bosses it can benefit anyone.
    But it doesn't, there is literally no explainable reason why this is better to do than to simply idle with an Owleyes, even if your MP is capped you can use the SCH JSE Club to make Sublimation cap faster, and if that is already capped, and your MP is capped, then yes, I guess it is a viable option, but if that's the case your not expending enough MP for it to matter anyways apparently. So all in all, what you are saying makes no statistical sense, even if you have hands on experience which says otherwise, mathematically it makes no sense man. Unless you can tell me something that I do not know or understand which changes this outcome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    You need to have every possible option that can help you no matter how small it is if you want to be better against T5 Bosses and beyond. It is why some players have not succeeded yet.

    This is why I understood when the Devs said you may need to go back and work on your gear if you did not succeed.
    To an extent I agree, however, at the same time the gear you are talking about seems to be gear of which is not as useful as you seem to try making it sound man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    But it doesn't, there is literally no explainable reason why this is better to do than to simply idle with an Owleyes, even if your MP is capped you can use the SCH JSE Club to make Sublimation cap faster, and if that is already capped, and your MP is capped, then yes, I guess it is a viable option, but if that's the case your not expending enough MP for it to matter anyways apparently. So all in all, what you are saying makes no statistical sense, even if you have hands on experience which says otherwise, mathematically it makes no sense man. Unless you can tell me something that I do not know or understand which changes this outcome?
    Death Scenario @ Any event, where SCH just died, has no mp, convert on countdown, helpless without any Vile elixer or other MP recovery items, just got up after being raised.

    Ok now take your option and combine my option together, without owl eyes, you could still use other MP idle refresh gear + Adloquium while equipping Hvelgamir... (use AND have Sublimation on countdown) By the time you unweaken, not only will you have sublimation filled (assuming half the amount when weakened status), your TP should be high enough to use Myrkr, add on Icarus Wing and then you can gain a higher amount of MP back because of the extra boost in TP plus what you gained from Adloquium during the duration of waiting out weakness status just by engaging mob from far away and using WS Myrkr quickly.

    What do you gain by sacrificing owl eyes? Well you elimate the risk of 10% damage taken from being hit in case boss goes awol, and you are trading 1 tick refresh for what could possibly give you 900-1k MP back.. How long does 1 tick refresh take to restore that much MP compared to 300% TP?

    Does not Scholar earring enhance Sublimation? The tricky part about Sublimation is when you are weakened though. Meaning if you did it wrong you could gain as low as 8 MP back which is a disappointing failure in a tight situation as fighting T5 bosses. Especially when you are tight on time and need to do your utmost best to help your team.

    And if you did have convert up, atleast this is an option to allow you to save Convert for later on in the battle. The point is you have an extra option worth getting.,

    Do know Myrkr is decently fast. I know in some parties when I was tired, I use to make an excuse and say there is a delay.. (sorry if you were there when I said it =p but us mages has to have some white lie excuses to why we let you die. Seriously??? I was joking... ok Im not but i didnt let anyone die unless if was a bard who did not have -PDT gear pulling way too much on their plate to handle, in that case i did let you die on purpose...)

    You could hit disengage during the time you are using Myrkr and the graphics go off, and after fountain of green goo spills over, quickly your character will disengage the same speed as if you engaged and disengaged normally.

    Engage > Use Myrkr > Disengage > Done

    In WoE I equip MAB Staff, When I get a dusty wing, I equip Hvelgamir, Pop Dusty Wing, Engage battle from far away, Use Myrkr, then Disengage and switch over to MAB staff again. Quick Simple and effectively worth it.

    If you still don't understand what Im talking about I can show you in game in Abby or WoE.

    PS. Bard comment i made about letting someone die on purpose, there is a good reason for that strategically. Why would i try to save someone who is doomed to die if I will gain hate and put my entire team at risk? Does not make sense to waste time trying if you know its an absolute outcome where you could end up dying yourself, wasting MP and wasting the entire alliance time. Where as 1 person dies, lose hate and mobs either retreat or disappear therefore you are only wasting MP to raise that 1 person.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-05-2013 at 08:23 PM.

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    EMP Trial

    Seriously, I did leave tips on how to breeze through EMP Trials before removing the info, if you have the drive and a lot of time on your hands to play several hours a day, you could accomplish this EMP trial in about 2 weeks.

    For mage class you dont need level 99 on Hvelgamir, because the only benefit you are gaining is extra stats like DMG and MP on the staff itself and longer time on Aftermath which is totally useless in support sitation however could be different in Solo situations where you occ. deals double damage. Although, I am wondering if this would make an impact on SCH self skillchain as I have not tried it with Hvelgamir lolz... but you see the point.

    EMP path might be way faster though.

    Even if you find the EMP path worthless, atleast do the WoE path so if SE decides to surprise us with REM update and allow you to unlock the WS to use across all weapons, atleast you will be ready and it really does help from my opinion as soon as I can get others to realize what Im talking about.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-05-2013 at 08:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    If u did like my guide, please leave a comment. If I see enough people interested, I will put it back up in a new thread and continue to add more details. After all might as well spill out all secrets since I'm moving on. From adding more details to gil farming....
    I liked the information you posted and would like to be educated more from your experience
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    i would very much love to see this guide again even in a PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Dev team, Community representatives.. Now I'm starting to see what you are dealing with 24/7 everyday of the week.
    If only. The people WHO'S JOB IT IS TO READ AND RESPOND TO THESE FORUMS are rarely doing their jobs.
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    Bayld bodies are now only 16k.
    Hands & Feet 10k.
    Head & Legs 12k.

    My friend who has pretty much only every done 15 suply runs in ceiz and enough farming to get a legs before has 13k. These'll be realy easy for people to get now. Level 100 btw.
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