Invitation to Plasm Farming

[Daemon]

Ok here is a challenge for both Karah and Tomoa. I know you believe highly that Hvelgamir is worthless. But Seriously play some WoE and use it, Try it out because im sure you will be placed in situations where you run out of Temp items and MP. Even Convert will be downtime.

Carry a stack of Icarus Wings. I know there is 120 time limit but ignore that limitation for a second and just try it then maybe you will see why i fought so hard as to why this is not worthless.

Its small details that ive been trying to point out so in the end, when you do step up to the plate at T5 and beyond. Atleast you did not ignore every small detail that could allow you to have a bigger impact than the person who did not have these items.

If you die, then when you get back up, Cast Adloquium imediately and make sure you have Hvelgamir equipped. Then when you Unweaken check how much TP you have and if you need to use Wing, do it atleast for practice. Then you will see why i spend so much effort trying to tell others how good it can be.

The thing about strategy is knowing your limits, Knowing what the next plan could be through your available options. Thats why I never turn down options no matter what small detail there is.

One of the devs asked players for suggestions on items and how they should make new adjustments, forgot where the post is , but someone did request TP wings and other items to be reduced on limited use.

The way I think its not at the moment, but how you can prepare for the future in case it does happen.

Its a small request, but it doesnt hurt to try it.

Even shattersoul reduces Magic Defense. I sometimes throw that in at WoE when I see alot of magic casting jobs. It does make a small subtle difference that I can see, but others don't.

I did tell you before Ive done 13k damage on Megamaw Mikey as a Scholar DD.... Self skillchaining Darkness.. It because behind everything people cannot see is that I make use of small details that no one takes a closer look at.

Thats the thing about how Japanese and Koreans think. Its not about whats obvious, its about whats subtle in difference that if you are smart enough to look behind the golden nugget, a wise player is one who knows everything and not whats best.

[Demon6324236]

Ok here is a challenge for both Karah and Tomoa. I know you believe highly that Hvelgamir is worthless. But Seriously play some WoE and use it, Try it out because im sure you will be placed in situations where you run out of Temp items and MP. Even Convert will be downtime.

Carry a stack of Icarus Wings. I know there is 120 time limit but ignore that limitation for a second and just try it then maybe you will see why i fought so hard as to why this is not worthless.

I think near the start of it, or at least parts I read, they seemed to say that if you used Wings it was good to have as a swap in tool, but just to idle in its never a good or viable option, especially given the extra time it takes to earn one vs earning an Owleyes. The staff has its uses, that's for sure, the only problem is how restricted they are, any content like Delve its not a good idea, but in VW or WoE, its by no means a bad option.

[Daemon]

One of the things i use to do was test out atmas and spells from WHM,BRD,Geo,Cor etc...

One example i tried using Earth resist, Magic defense bonus and INT atma and went to mikey with absolutely no gear on. Then i observed the damage and casted shell and barstone...

Another time I went as bard and instead i only used Earth Carol I & II, and Barstone with Shell.. Damage was reduced noticiably high.

Now here is why i pointed this out to you, I may not know numbers and statistics because i hate math, but I do know what works from experiance. I do tests like these. Ive fought Mikey so many times on so many jobs to see if I could solo it with any job. So far Ive been able to solo it on RUN,BRD (took godly forever),WHM,,BLM,RDM,BST.....

So this is how i came to writing my guide in the first place so I can be sure I didnt make any errors with my words. I might make some errors... I mean... I am human right? But I do try my best to be accurate as possible and double check, ask others opinion, before I make it official.

[Daemon]

I think near the start of it, or at least parts I read, they seemed to say that if you used Wings it was good to have as a swap in tool, but just to idle in its never a good or viable option, especially given the extra time it takes to earn one vs earning an Owleyes. The staff has its uses, that's for sure, the only problem is how restricted they are, any content like Delve its not a good idea, but in VW or WoE, its by no means a bad option.

It could be useful in Delve also remember that using Myrkr, you do not need to engage enemy from close range . You can engage from as far as you like and use the WS as long as you are engaged in battle with weapon out. Therefore during T5 bosses it can benefit anyone.

[Daemon]

I think near the start of it, or at least parts I read, they seemed to say that if you used Wings it was good to have as a swap in tool, but just to idle in its never a good or viable option, especially given the extra time it takes to earn one vs earning an Owleyes. The staff has its uses, that's for sure, the only problem is how restricted they are, any content like Delve its not a good idea, but in VW or WoE, its by no means a bad option.

Wouldnt Owl Eyes be dangerous?

Owleyes
(Club) All Races
DMG: 22 Delay: 217 Damage taken +10%
Adds "Refresh" effect
Lv. 80 WHM / BLM / SMN / SCH / GEO

Damage Per Second: 6.08
TP Per Hit: 5.8%

I know refresh is nice but need to becareful suggesting an item like this as +10% damage taken is a very reasonable risk to be aware of.

Personally I would never equip this in delve unless I was far away from battle where resting is a viable option.

[Daemon]

And yes I may repeat myself sometimes because I'm answering each reply accordingly. That way others reading won't get confused.

[Daemon]

One detail DJ. I can see Hvelgamir only being used in delve as a quick last resort for MP. Nice trick that can make a difference. If you gain 100% TP from Icarus Wing, you can gain 200+ mp back. I mean MP you didn't have. That's enough to raise 1 person or Accession + Regen V your entire group. Stoneskin? And if you Penury you can cast both Protect and Shell V on your team. I know 200 MP doesn't sound a lot but hey, that's the trick of knowing how to make use of every job ability the job comes with such as Penury.

Again if you died and got back up. Cast Adloquium so your TP is raising. By the time you unweaken that plus Icarus wing can make a difference. I said before You could gain 900-1k mp back if TP is at 300%.

Switch over to Cure Potency 50% Rapture /Accession and what you? A massive Curaga that the other Scholar in party could not provide after death because they did not have the option you had. Although I would never suggest this at weakened status as enmity could divert boss on to you and kill you. Therefore wasting another mages 150MP to raise you again. Best to wait for you to unweaken first before you decide this is a good option otherwise if you desperately need to in the wake of saving your team by risking your life, make sure to put stoneskin and blink up first.

You need to have every possible option that can help you no matter how small it is if you want to be better against T5 Bosses and beyond. It is why some players have not succeeded yet.

This is why I understood when the Devs said you may need to go back and work on your gear if you did not succeed.

[Daemon]

PS. If you feel like REM is worthless, you can donate all your Unbral Marrow, Riftcinder, Heavy Metal Plates, Alexandrites and all other trial goodies at P.O. box Phoenix Ultimas Room#1337 Port Jeuno.

I wouldn't mind making a Yagrush...

[Daemon]

And to you Daemon/Ultimas, I have one question: did it never occur to you that by doing what you did in this thread - deleting your posts and naming the people you blame it on - you'd be dragging the arguing out further?

To answer this question, if it got your attention so you could come here and fight it out til we both understood each other and fix the situation, to me it was worth it. Because I never disliked anyone in the list of names i put up. However I did want to drag on the conversation so we could sort out the issue rather than leave our debate and misunderstanding between us behind lock doors. Even if I had to go to extremes.

Apologies to those who were effected by this. And I will take the time to make things up to those who came here expecting to see a guide to help you.

Edit: since I just read the post above mine, I would also like to point out that I never once attacked you with hatred, as you put it. It was all a "omg you CANNOT be serious?!??"-kind of reaction from my side.

Lol... sometimes I say things that is not directly about you. Remember during the time I reply, theres like 3-5 people participating in the conversation with several questions or points that Im replying to. So please if you were offended then I truely apologize for the misunderstanding.

[Daemon]

And to Karah, I still think you are a cool person, although we went through a few rounds throughout a couple of posts, You never lost your cool and resorted to profanity or other ways beyond tolerance. Hope we can patch up our dispute and move forward with a new leaf.

Alot of the things said in the other thread was more likely to be misunderstanding, miscommunication and confusion. Hard to answer several at once, therefore lots of confusion from 1 reply. Thanks for be awesome though. And yes I am apologizing to you and everyone else if you were offended.