Invitation to Plasm Farming

[Karah]

You might want to review your statement, family guy disgusts me. I would never stoop to using it in any form.

That post was added by Shirai, even though we're both Mithran, we have different hair color.

I read the tl dr from one of my favorite posters, I'm certain he summed it up expertly, as he always does *props*.

Ascertained the thread could benefit from my expert opinion and carried through~

[Toukai]

Dude, THANK YOU

I see so many people talking about gear sets for specific issues, but they all assume that everyone knows what should be in each gear set. Thank you for actually listing the gear that is needed ^^

Your posts are very informative and well written. Thank you!

I've got a few jobs I'm' working on, but right now, my best geared job is dnc, with either /nin /thf or /war (no R/M/E yet, I know, I'm working on it). I constantly see people stating that they used 'haste setup' or 'evasion setup' or 'ws setup' and I'm doing the best with what I have, but would LOVE some specific gear pieces that can be low-manned. My small group has smn, thf, and bst available to help out. So, anything that could be obtained with low-man pet groups or solo'd as dnc/nin, please let me know. There's been so many gear additions since Abyssea came out that I'm finding myself a little overwhelmed ^^

Help?

I'm in this boat. I just came back from a year and 2 month "break" and landed back in Vanadiel in mid June or so, well after delve had been established and was a bit lost at what I should do. If i had your knowledge and wrote a guide whether or not people corrected or criticized my guide I'd think even 1 thank you like the above quote would be enough to justify keeping the guide in the face of adversity. And yes, I do want the guide up so I can use it myself I think there are plenty of others who could benefit from it. I'd just ignore what trolls say, although I did take the time to read through your other thread which was locked. I don't see what was really wrong with what they said, in fact a lot of their advice was really helpful. Chatoyant staff helped my inventory a lot for one thing.

The comment at R/M/E being pretty useless isn't that far off either. I mean, my heart belongs to the drg class and i've always wanted a gungnir since way back when i first started. It has always had a lot of problems (lol shock spikes, Agl mod ws, Def down not stacking with angon...) And with the new delve weapons just absolutely crushing their stats a lot of r/e/m are kinda useless. I don't think anyone meant that they would always be useless but with the way SE is about updates (what is it 3 years smn have been promised Cait sith?) and no mention of r/e/m updates anytime soon I don't think anyone can really justify making a relic besides like aegis or gollyhorn. Its a huge time commitment that could be better spent working towards Delve equipment or even collecting gear from other places to play catchup (what i'm currently doing as my gungnir is on hold for now until we get definitive info on the adjustments).

And while their comments may not have been the most polite, this is the internet. The darkest cesspool of humanity, a wretched hive of scum and villainy but they do have cookies.
So i say just take it in stride and repost ur guide to help the loldrgs like me other less fortunate or casual players improve their game play and feel like they are actually accomplishing something.

[Daemon]

Demonjustin and me are mad cool with each other in game yet we hit the forums debating like crazy but its refreshing because we are both trying to learn from each other. Atleast he is willing to give me the same respect by listening to my take rather than ignore what i say and constantly attack me by trying to prove me wrong.

My opinion are not meant to be a day time soap opera of who is right and who is wrong. Our discussions are about how we play jobs differently and what works for each other.

Ive been respectful in responding to people even when they come off attacking me in the start without even knowing me.

[Daemon]

I'm in this boat. I just came back from a year and 2 month "break" and landed back in Vanadiel in mid June or so, well after delve had been established and was a bit lost at what I should do. If i had your knowledge and wrote a guide whether or not people corrected or criticized my guide I'd think even 1 thank you like the above quote would be enough to justify keeping the guide in the face of adversity. And yes, I do want the guide up so I can use it myself I think there are plenty of others who could benefit from it. I'd just ignore what trolls say, although I did take the time to read through your other thread which was locked. I don't see what was really wrong with what they said, in fact a lot of their advice was really helpful. Chatoyant staff helped my inventory a lot for one thing.

The comment at R/M/E being pretty useless isn't that far off either. I mean, my heart belongs to the drg class and i've always wanted a gungnir since way back when i first started. It has always had a lot of problems (lol shock spikes, Agl mod ws, Def down not stacking with angon...) And with the new delve weapons just absolutely crushing their stats a lot of r/e/m are kinda useless. I don't think anyone meant that they would always be useless but with the way SE is about updates (what is it 3 years smn have been promised Cait sith?) and no mention of r/e/m updates anytime soon I don't think anyone can really justify making a relic besides like aegis or gollyhorn. Its a huge time commitment that could be better spent working towards Delve equipment or even collecting gear from other places to play catchup (what i'm currently doing as my gungnir is on hold for now until we get definitive info on the adjustments).

And while their comments may not have been the most polite, this is the internet. The darkest cesspool of humanity, a wretched hive of scum and villainy but they do have cookies.
So i say just take it in stride and repost ur guide to help the loldrgs like me other less fortunate or casual players improve their game play and feel like they are actually accomplishing something.

And this is why I can respect you. You did not come off attacking me flat out saying im wrong. You shared your opinion very nicely. However dealing with others didnt come off like that.

I did spend a good portion of the time trying to explain myself. However answering 1 reply and getting 3-5 attacks at once did not help. But I agree with you, and I have even stated several times, Its not about who is right and who is wrong. I tried to explain to others the mystery of why I equipped Hvelgamier full time as in, Full time during the regain phase. But rather observe the situation, People did flat out say its worthless and didnt even give me the opportunity to explain why I felt it wasnt.

In this thread my explanation was realized.

[Daemon]

The thing about equipment and being level 99. You cannot expect people to obtain a delve weapon and be ready for T5 bosses without gear.

Sometimes it takes gear to obtain gear but that also depends on the skill of the person. Why did i ever state pieces like Kirin Pole to begin with. Well not everyone can get a party together and earn Rubieus set.

Ive done Qilin 2000+ times and still NEVER got a coruscanti. My guide was based on showing players that certain gear helps you move on to certain parts of the game.

Yes to many level 99 players REM is worthless. But think about those saying its worthless. They are beyond Adoulin and playing in delve with Delve equipment.

You cannot expect every single player especially new or returning to have the ultimate skill and gear to be on the same level as those who are at the top. This was why I fought so hard to explain myself.

As for the Cure Potency gear I listed earlier, It was items that are not so difficult to obtain through Auction house.

My play style revolves around switching gear that people do no not see. Alot of times Ill switch waist, back, earrings, rings and people wonder why I am able to survive certain things all because they didnt even see my character blink.

A good example is when I switch over to -PDT set.

People here made a big deal over 1 weapon slot. I understand you. But you did not see the situation clearly. And I even explained it.

Not only does gear matter, things can change based on your team, if you are in a good team, you can tone down on max capped sets. If your team is not that well geared then you need to use capped sets. Especially for single things like Delve Plasm farming. Which is not T1-5 boss fights.

I was mostly offended that people think im a noob., Ive been playing since day 1. Took a break and came back and leveled 13 jobs to 99. Why? because i know you need other jobs to accomplish certain things and participate in certain areas. Otherwise playing 1 job will lead you to be left out on many occassions.

My guide should have proven to others that I know what Im talking about. I did list several basic parts that I wrote hand written on the knowledge i knew. Not copy it others work and present it as my own.

However the point was to train others how they can move past things that might have taken them ages to learn and get to the point.

[Daemon]

Some people went straight to posting gear sets. How does that help the person to get those items if they dont have the proper team and equipment to fight the bosses or participate in areas without having a good build?

This is the main reason behind me saying people shouldnt flat out say other content equipment is irrelevant. Because to those who are saying it, Sure it is to you, but not to those who are just finished leveling to 99 fresh out of abyssea..

Ive even wrote article pieces how certain gear with small details can help. Maybe THAT 1 item doesnt make a difference however if you collected enough pieces and add them up together, the outcome could be totally different than a person who did not have all those small details to put together.

Someone posted a link on End game gear sets. Well bravo, how the heck do you expect someone to earn Nahtirah Hat in AF3? Or with an Auction house weapon??

This was my points.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

It's your own faults for not quoting the guides. He can't delete quotes. lol

[Daemon]

It's your own faults for not quoting the guides. He can't delete quotes. lol

See i can respect you here, because you are not seriously attacking me with hatred, you are saying the truth in a joking manner. Which is cool. I like that.

[Tamoa]

I thought I was done with this thread, however I'd like to point something out: I too, never posted in this particular thread until you deleted it, naming me as one of the people who made you decide to delete it. I had no issues with your guide, in fact I'd barely looked at it because I have no need for a guide like the one you originally posted in this thread. I did however, have issues with some of your statements in the other thread that got locked, which is why I posted there. Was I as polite as I could about it? Probably not entirely, no - but a couple of your statements really did make me grit my teeth (and they still do, I will never understand why someone who's on a healing job a lot, would recommend having less than 50% cure potency - hell, ALL my mage jobs have 50% cure potency, even my gimp blm that I never use).

To those that found the guide originally posted in this thread to be useful, I apologize for causing the OP to remove it - however I had no idea my disagreeing with him in an entirely different thread would have such an effect.

And to you Daemon/Ultimas, I have one question: did it never occur to you that by doing what you did in this thread - deleting your posts and naming the people you blame it on - you'd be dragging the arguing out further? Yes, you deleted the names now, but that's kind of like shutting the barn door after the horse ran off...

Edit: since I just read the post above mine, I would also like to point out that I never once attacked you with hatred, as you put it. It was all a "omg you CANNOT be serious?!??"-kind of reaction from my side.

[Daemon]

As a Red mage, Im still working on myself because I like others put the job down when it became irrelevant in the majority of content. However I have AF2 Relic Body and Head +2 with Augments trial completed giving me +20 seconds more to Chainspell and enhances Dia III.

I have full Fast cast set, Enhancing over 500+, Enfeebling over 500+, -Pdt, Mab, Cure Potency, small details such as Zammzummin staff and Kaikas Cape for landing Gravity, Dark Magic set from Arc Lord, Crimson Fingers, for Stun/Blind, Small details items such as Sand Mantle Petrification: -20% PDT in case im fighting Pieste boss and blind goes off where Im petrified. Orvail set with Augments on each piece for accuracy, Refraction cape, Memph Grip for Enfeebling, Bowkus robe and Soothsayer staff rank 10+

Several grips in my main inventory to switch around.

I never said I am the best, but Im working on character just like others. If I could do T5 all day and gain all the best items or participate in Legion and collect the gears i needed but people tend to not understand that all of this takes time.

I know how to macro and switch to several gear sets, Had you all actually read my guide i was one of the main topics I discussed.