FFXIV A Realm Reborn

[Vizzer]

Not at all, the better XIV does the more FFXI will be left to die. Not that I actually think XIV ARR will be a success, playing it has shown me of that.

When XIV flops and gets player numbers like XIV V1 did XI will dwarf it in profits again, that's the point you make sure the money keeps flowing in and where you really look after what you have that makes money. XIV flopping won't do anything but embarass the company and put lots of effort back into XI, it won't cripple them. It just isn't that important.

The single best thing that can happen to XI is XIV failing again, anything else is the nail in the coffin of this game. XIV will smother the life out of XI very quickly if it does well.

No matter how you want to slice it, these 2 games are direct competition for each other. Nothing good can come from XIV doing well for this game or its community. Competition for FF players, syphoning off of development staff and money. The only people that say otherwise are the XIV players here preaching it about their competing game. XIV is as direct competition and as dangerous to XI as World of warcraft was, it shoudl be treated as such.

New CEO of SE said the profitable games/projects will get money, why does XI have less devs now, because they reduced the number of people they had to pay to make it still bring in money with their declining subscriptions. XIV failing, which I doubt it will, wouldn't do XI any good, unless XI got a large influx of people from XIV, and that's not going to happen. The numbers for XI were falling before the beta for XIV. XI will loose some for the launch of XIV, which will mean less subs for XI, so less resources for XI. If XIV fails, not all of those people that left XI for XIV will go back, they left because they were looking for something else to begin with, but XI will get some back, so they may get an increase in resources, but not enough to bring it back to where it is now. The current community right now is the biggest hope XI has, if they keep on putting new players down, and not accepting the fact that their game needs to change to bring in more numbers, they will just keep driving people away, until the game shuts down, thus upsetting the developers working on the game, so they will quit, and move onto Hello Kitty Online, infusing it with all of the ideas the short sighted community of XI refused to accept, making it a global juggernaut.

[Spectreman]

I think Square Enix will be shutting down sooner than we expect. Not ff11, ff114, but the company itself. They still do the same mistakes previous big softhouses did in the past and were shutdown.

[DarkStoneDragon]

Listen, I personally don't know if FFXIV will be a big success, I hope it does very well, but if it does well or if it flops I really don't think it'll cause doom for SE, SE is a great company that has a lot of great games, sure the Final Fantasy franchise will take yet another rep. hit, but IF it does flop, fans like me will still support SE and FF. Like my Wife says "we need to stop the forum bickering, the community is the most damaging part of FFXI/FFXIV life, because everyone is fighting and trashing one or the other games" like I posted in another thread we'll play both games, and support SE and Final Fantasy reguardless of FFXI or FFXIV outcome, who knows we may find that both can co-exist for years.

[Demon6324236]

FFXIV: A realm stillborn.

I'll be happy to see it flop and they will be forced to re-invest into FFXI.

The naivety of this post... is astounding. Do you really think with all of the problems this company has been having with Final Fantasy in general as of late that they would put more money into this sinking ship once they lose an enormous investment of money on not just 1 FFXIV, but a second reborn version?! That is flat out hilarious that you believe they would do something so idiotic.

[Vil]

Listen, I personally don't know if FFXIV will be a big success, I hope it does very well, but if it does well or if it flops I really don't think it'll cause doom for SE, SE is a great company that has a lot of great games, sure the Final Fantasy franchise will take yet another rep. hit, but IF it does flop, fans like me will still support SE and FF. Like my Wife says "we need to stop the forum bickering, the community is the most damaging part of FFXI/FFXIV life, because everyone is fighting and trashing one or the other games" like I posted in another thread we'll play both games, and support SE and Final Fantasy reguardless of FFXI or FFXIV outcome, who knows we may find that both can co-exist for years.

Except it was stated before that SE cannot afford for XIV to fail, or the whole company sinks. I'll try to find the interview xD

I too will keep supporting SE, either by console games or through XI/XIV, but people who hope XIV will fail in hopes that XI will get a facelift are just kidding themselves.

[Demon6324236]

I think Square Enix will be shutting down sooner than we expect. Not ff11, ff114, but the company itself. They still do the same mistakes previous big softhouses did in the past and were shutdown.

The company itself still makes a lot of money off of its other games, only Final Fantasy has really been going down hill as of late, Tomb Raider & Hitman did well so far as I know, Dragon Quest is still doin well so far as I know, they have a lot of other smaller games, and lets not forget Kingdom Hearts, which is a fantastic game, and has 1.5 as well as III coming out. The company itself is doing well for the most part I think, but Final Fantasy, its going to hell right now, unless FFXIII-3, FFXIV, and FFXV do some good things to pull it back up as well as FFX/-2HD if it does well, after all it was one of their best in my opinion as well as many others. All in all Final Fantasy right now has a chance at either messing up again, or remaking a name for itself, but I think SE as a company will survive either way most likely. The biggest problem I think they have overall is they spread themselves to thin, because it seems like they have at very least 6~8 things in the works, if not more, between X/-2HD, XIII-3, XIV, XV, KH1.5, KHIII, and maybe more, just 6 games from their main series alone though.

[Alpheus]

Tomb Raider and Hitman and Sleeping Dogs were considered failures by SE because they did not meet self expectations of units sold. It was a case of unrealistic expectations on the part of SE.

[Dragoy]

Are there any vestiges of stupid FFXI limitations?

I'd say it depends on what kind of limitations you mean exactly.

They are no doubt working within the memory limitations of the PS3 (and lower-end personal computators), so you could imagine something like, I don't know, animations for characters (player/chocobo\et al), or options for additional sound effects for certain things being impossible to add (for the time being at least).

So yes, there are quite a lot of limitations.

Will you notice them any time soon?

Probably not, unless you know where to look for, and/or until time catches on. ^^

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Runespider, I hate to disagree with you on everything. In fact, I feel completely the opposite. FFXI has come and gone and the best of what was promised ages ago with fixes on jobs and summons has not come...yet. I do not find a reason to come back to FFXI anymore. There is NOTHING to do on there. Not even my LS is active anymore, and everyone has gone to FFXIV: ARR now. Plus I cannot find the motivation to get things done. Everything is slow. And boring. Slow, and even more boring. Even though the exp gain has increased in FFXI, I still find that battles take a bit too long FFXIV: ARR hits the right spot. Square-Enix made FFXIV: ARR to be the spiritual successor to FFXI, whether you like it or not. I'm leaving my FFXI to rot for good now on the game (I would never delete him due to the memories, I'll just let his corpse fester). His "new skin" is now on ARR and he's found a much better place to thrive.

If anything, YOU are the one who is delusional about ARR being a waste. It's not. It's the FIX of what FFXI should be if it ever did get upgraded. If FFXIV: ARR flops, FFXI goes down the shitter, too. If FFXIV: ARR succeeds, FFXI will dwindle away. Either way, it's a double-edge sword. FFXI is so archaic that I cannot stand it any longer. I mean, look at the areas. There are NO ambient shadows/lighting in the areas; trees and buildings give off no shadows, and the only shadows given off are from players, NPCs, and monsters. The game looks like an upscaled N64 game to me. It's just pathetic. The only good thing FFXI has is its content, storyline, and such. It's a unique snowflake, but one that is rooted in the past of MMOs. Take it as you will, but if "you" continue to live in the past along with FFXI, you will be sadly left behind on a dying game.

[Finuve]

that settles it guys, FFXIV is better than FFXI because it has shadows