Wake up, "Seekers" is failing

[MarkovChain]

While I wish it to be true that R/E/Ms will be equal/superior to Delve weapons, and stay that way, I don't think that will be the case. Maybe you missed this post Pchan:


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post448309

in particular this part:



Edit: that post is from yesterday by the way, and going by that they are planning to add equipment that surpasses R/E/Ms even after they get their update. :/

Well I think it's over then. If people realize the devs have been lying about expanding RME it'll give everyone that has been playing over the last years a reason to quit. There is no way anyone sane could accept that a single NM kill allows you to have 100% access (as there is no drop rate, it's a Key item) to a weapon that beats by 40% others requiring several hundred of hours to obtain which many already obtained. Now if they allow to build better weapons that are obtained in a similar way as rme (with effort) it's a different story.

Anyway we must take caution when reading the devs. They think their delve gear is super awesome but in reality all the mage gear sucks, and as for DDs you can allow at best one or two pieces in a ultimate build. In reality I've yet to see them release something that beats nyzul2 or salvage2 gear (all low man events..). For instance on monk only the delve legs stand out, the rest is ubber crap especially on delve bosses where you can abuse some jobs unique ability (atm : soulvoiced madrigal minuet etc).

[Mahoro]

Out of curiosity, how many linkshells would you say are doing Delve Bosses?

I haven't counted all the shells posting strategies, but the information is accessible.

[Castoth]

All I know is that 90% of my LS (possibly including myself) is gone after July if Square doesn't fix the problems with SoA that have been repeated ad nauseam here, and in most other topics.

[Daemon]

You guys should check out my Guide here in General Discussion. Invitation to Plasm Farming. It may change your point of view.

[FrankReynolds]

You guys should check out my Guide here in General Discussion. Invitation to Plasm Farming. It may change your point of view.

I know how to farm plasm. I have a few delve weapons etc.too, but me having my gear isn't gonna keep all these other people playing the game.

That guide was well written, thoughtful and probably quite helpful to quite a few people. Thank you for writing that.

The problem is that it's a lot of hurdles to jump through. If you want to start on delve now, you have to do a whole bunch of crap that people who started a few weeks ago didn't have to do because the standard for DDS / mages changed that fast. Why would someone want to spend weeks / months getting geared up just to gain entry into something that other people got to walk right into the day it came out?

It's like people who missed the first day of high school having to start over at kindergarten.

[Demon6324236]

It's like people who missed the first day of high school having to start over at kindergarten.

Well, it is and its not, its not exactly like people who were there at release for Adoulin or Delve got some stuff for free or something. We did all of the same stuff they basically have to do at some point in our time on this game, its just that when we did it, more people were doing it overall, now not as many people are, so its harder. Its more like if we went through all of the grades and were in 9th grade while others are just entering 1st or 2nd, its not really that they were screwed for not being to the 9th grade classes on time, they just weren't here before and have to work their way up. If they are smart enough, or in this case, skilled and lucky enough, they can skip through some of the stuff, and get things done faster than others, if they are not, they have to take their time, and in some cases, even fall behind and take longer. We did not get a free ride through this content, we were just already prepared, they were not, as such, they need to build for it, that is part of the problem, and that guide helps people do just that, prepare for what is ahead, rather than simply throwing themselves at it hoping they do well.

[FrankReynolds]

Well, it is and its not, its not exactly like people who were there at release for Adoulin or Delve got some stuff for free or something. We did all of the same stuff they basically have to do at some point in our time on this game, its just that when we did it, more people were doing it overall, now not as many people are, so its harder. Its more like if we went through all of the grades and were in 9th grade while others are just entering 1st or 2nd, its not really that they were screwed for not being to the 9th grade classes on time, they just weren't here before and have to work their way up. If they are smart enough, or in this case, skilled and lucky enough, they can skip through some of the stuff, and get things done faster than others, if they are not, they have to take their time, and in some cases, even fall behind and take longer. We did not get a free ride through this content, we were just already prepared, they were not, as such, they need to build for it, that is part of the problem, and that guide helps people do just that, prepare for what is ahead, rather than simply throwing themselves at it hoping they do well.

Nah, a few weeks ago, I could get in outside NM groups and Plasm farm runs on sam with just +2 abbysea gear and a tp bonus GK. Now people want you to go farm all the reive / skirmish gear and weapons and then they still probably won't let you in on a DD job. Honestly, I see about one DD slot open a day in shouts right now and it takes one shout to fill it. At this point, if you can't lead a run, you better have some damn good gear. I actually see more people shouting (No DD JOBS please) a lot. Things are rough.

[Milva]

Nah, a few weeks ago, I could get in outside NM groups and Plasm farm runs on sam with just +2 abbysea gear and a tp bonus GK. Now people want you to go farm all the reive / skirmish gear and weapons and then they still probably won't let you in on a DD job. Honestly, I see about one DD slot open a day in shouts right now and it takes one shout to fill it. At this point, if you can't lead a run, you better have some damn good gear. I actually see more people shouting (No DD JOBS please) a lot. Things are rough.

Not to offend you, but Delve isn't instanced - it can cater for few alliances inside at the same time. Toss out a shout (anyone is free to do so!) and see how many people are willing to join you. If you're not willing to do that, you'll have to wait in line for invite, I'm afraid.

[FrankReynolds]

Not to offend you, but Delve isn't instanced - it can cater for few alliances inside at the same time. Toss out a shout (anyone is free to do so!) and see how many people are willing to join you. If you're not willing to do that, you'll have to wait in line for invite, I'm afraid.

The reality is that most people cannot do that so they do stand around waiting for an invite. You can call them lazy or stupid or whatever suits your mood, but if they get tired of standing around and leave then it probably will hurt you more than them.

People who can't play the game (whether in actuality of just in perception) don't stay and there aren't enough new people coming in to compensate for that. And to be clear, I have mage jobs geared sufficiently to get me into groups. I am speaking about people in general. One mans "challenge" is another mans "Pain in the ass".

People always say " Well if you want X you gotta put in the work..." .

No, no you don't. Proving that they have good work ethic has never been a compelling reason to play a video game for the vast majority of people who play them.

[Runespider]

SoA was a cash grab, FFXI is pretty much done and they expect you all to move to FFXIV like well behaved little sheep.

If you can't see it for what it is then you have nobody to blame but yourself, even the guy in charge of FFXI now is a XIV part timer..