Fairness (Warning: rant ahead)

[Anjou]

Well tbh if a standing member of a ls who has been working with that group has a piece of gear fall which they need it is perfectly fair for a ls lead to say no you cannot have it. If you do let new members take gear they need before a long time member that...

A: really isn't fair to the person who has been busting their butt on multiple runs and other events for that ls which does not induce loyalty to that ls and
B: new members come and go frequently and most ls are not gear dropping factories for ppl who may drop your pearl a day or two later or only help the ls when its convenient for themselves only.

As a leader of an old dyna ls I can tell you, you need to gear your long time ppl first because most new comers to the group do not stay long if their needs are not immediately tended to which is not fair to long term members who have been helping the ls as a whole for a long time and not just one or a handful of events. It's only a select few who understand that ppl cannot drop everything on a dime to rush out to help them farm a key or a nm and its only the ppl who do understand that stay. Newbs to the group should be ok to lot something that will hit the ground otherwise but aside from that I see no problems with old members taking priority. Heck we used to farm dyna twice a week for months just to get ONE person a relic weapon! And no one complained. Talk about old school commitment.

Whats not FAIR as you put it, is ppl who join a ls, get their 2-3 pieces of gear in a couple runs then drop the pearl because they are done farming that particular event. The game is about cooperation but if you ever run your own ls you will understand why these rules exist because if you do not have them you will be walked all over by ppl you will never see again and that one great piece of gear you need will elude you forever because ppl will out lot you and run off with it. These rules are not an elitest or snob thing, its a practical thing.

You will find these rules in xiv as well so if you are not thrilled with them...well... good luck lol

The. Here let me also cite this:

My Blue Mage on Dolphis is lvl 99, I go into dyna beaucedine in that linkshell, we kill and kill, and the. A Mirage body drops. Now obviously I asked if I could lot on it, but due to that probation period a sack holder who 'needed' it stole it from me. I go Ito gusgen the next day, his blue mage is only lvl 15. So tell me Mist, is that fair?

[Vizzer]

The. Here let me also cite this:

My Blue Mage on Dolphis is lvl 99, I go into dyna beaucedine in that linkshell, we kill and kill, and the. A Mirage body drops. Now obviously I asked if I could lot on it, but due to that probation period a sack holder who 'needed' it stole it from me. I go Ito gusgen the next day, his blue mage is only lvl 15. So tell me Mist, is that fair?

Problems like this will work themselves out, you agreed to those rules when you joined the LS, but it was a prick move on behalf of the other guy, way to make new people feel welcome. As the numbers in this game continue to drop, there will be fewer shells, so they will think they can have rules like this because people have no other choice, but in the end, players like that will just drive others away. So the shell drives away people, like they have in the past, but now there isn't enough people to replace them.

[Mostfowl]

The. Here let me also cite this:

My Blue Mage on Dolphis is lvl 99, I go into dyna beaucedine in that linkshell, we kill and kill, and the. A Mirage body drops. Now obviously I asked if I could lot on it, but due to that probation period a sack holder who 'needed' it stole it from me. I go Ito gusgen the next day, his blue mage is only lvl 15. So tell me Mist, is that fair?

Well no that is not fair but you did not include that part of it either. I do stand by my post, the only difference is no one in my ls prioritized gear for a job they did not already have maxed. That was one of our rules and our core group were cool with it. The ones that were not and tried a ninja lot or refused to pass simply got a d2, a broken pearl and a blist.

And honestly you would likely have /ragequit my ls too simply because we would not have catered to your every whim the moment you joined which is what your posts make it sound like you are looking for. We did have a "help a newb" thing were we always had 1-2 players we would help with missions and what not but they had to be patient. If they asked for help they got it, but rarely that very moment and sometimes not even that same day. Regardless we got them through missions and whatever drops they needed in a timely manner. It just took a little patience on their part.

Also whats all the fuss about dyna drops? It rains relic in dyna now. Back in the day we could run a zone 10 times and never see one drop of the piece we need (10 runs back then was 5 WEEKS worth of trying too btw). Nowadays I solo dyna (on pup mind you so no th) and its rare I don't see at least 1of every piece drop in my 2 hrs.