FINAL FANTASY XI JOBS TIER II

[Tsukino_Kaji]

There is so much job imbalance as is lol, don't see much change from what it is right now.

Being different and being unbalanced are not the same thing. Like red instead of black producing 3 for 1. Eventualy people will get used to it.

[Siviard]

I actually like this idea and fully support it. Reminds me of the "upgrade" you got from the original Final Fantasy, where you had to go to the Castle of Ordeals, get the Rat's Tail and deliver it to Bahamut.

I love leveling jobs but since all of my jobs are 70+ except for COR being able to level the "old school" way is pretty much out the window. I'd love to be able to level in the n00b zones again!

My ideas for job upgrades.

WAR - GLD (Gladiator)
MNK - MST (Master)
THF - BRG (Brigand)
WHM - DVT (Devout)
BLM - BWZ (Black Wizard)
RDM - MSK (Mystic Knight) """I had a hard time thinking of this one, but RDM with all of it's En-Spells fits the Mystic Knight of FF5 perfectly)

PLD - HOK (Holy Knight) or WHK (White Knight)
DRK - BLK (Black Knight)
BRD - """"I can't think of anything here"""
BST - TAM (Tamer)
RNG - SNP (Sniper) or HNT (Hunter)
DRG - LNC (Lancer) or DKN (Dragon Knight)
SAM - BSH (Bushido)
NIN - ASN (Assassin)
SMN - CAL (Caller)
BLU - MAG (Magus)
COR - PRT (Pirate) or GMB (Gambler)
PUP - JST (Jester)
DNC - PRF (Performer)
SCH - SGE (Sage)

[Chiibi]

BRD = Justin Bieber

[Siviard]

BRD = Justin Bieber

At least Bieber is a lot better than Rebecca Black chick.......FRIDAY, FRIDAY, NEXT DAY IS SATURDAY.....GAWD CUT MY WRIST DEEP ALREADY!!1!111

[Zyeriis]

Bard would be Minstrel or Maestro.

Summoner could become Beckon Mage, a tribute to Bacon Mage. /joke
Summoner could become a Conjurer.
Paladin could also become Crusader. (or Cruorsader, if i wanna make a joke)

[annewandering]

Mnk >> Sumo Monk uses body and so would sumo no idea on abilities other than they would be physically based,

[Fetus]

As for Red Mage, Onion Knight or something would probably work better. Or Magic Knight. (Or Mythic Knight)
Samurai would become a Shogun or Master Samurai.
Dragoon would become Lancer.
Beastmaster would become Beastmeister (slight joke)
Puppetmaster would become Puppeteer or Engineer.
Blue Mage would become Magus
Corsair would become Admiral (or something).
Paladin would become Cavalier.
Dark Knight would become Black Knight.
White Mage would become Devout, White Wizard, or Shaman.
Scholar would become Sage.
Black Mage would become Black Wizard or Warlock.
Thief would become Master Thief or Brigand.
Monk, I don't care. Least favorite job.
Bard would become Minstrel or Maestro.
Dancer would become Performer (or something).
Ninja would become Master Ninja.
Ranger would become Warden or Hunter.

Eh. My thoughts:

WHM > Prophet or Cleric
RDM > Warlock or Estoqueur
BLM > Sorcerer or Elementalist
THF > Rogue or Assassin
WAR > Viking, Gladiator or Warlord
MNK > Ascetic or Pugilist
SAM > Ronin or Shogun
NIN > Koga, Iga or Shinobi.
PLD > Templar
BST > Warden
DRG > Lancer
BLU > Magus
SCH > Sage
BRD > Minstrel or Maestro.
SMN > Demonologist or Mystic

Unlisted are ones I couldn't think of anything for.

[Dale]

I see a lot of ideas for new jobs here and I thought maybe we should create Tiers of current jobs. For example: WHM > Devout (following a line of thinking similar to Final Fantasy Tactics), RDM > Time Mage, WAR > Gladiator and so forth, instead of just creating these jobs and making available to anyone that purchase the expansion/add-on/scenario you would have to complete quest and meet a "certain" requirement such as, to open Time Mage flag you would have to Level UP RDM to 99 first and so on to the Tier II job levels.

Please post your ideas of job upgrades for the Tier II, it could even have a second branch of one individual job and even combos for that matter, BST99/DRG99 to become Dragontamer and go capture your own "Dragon" not only having a little wyvern to fight with you.

Perhaps these jobs could be slightly stronger then their previous jobs due to the requirements. Able to use their Job Requirement Specific gears.

SMN maybe going into Evoker, where the Avatars consume no MP and have the ability to fuse with the Avatars sharing stats from gear and SUBJOB.

I'm curious to know what ideas people come up with under this thread.

Thanks for participating.

These are good ideas leatherman, and I'd love to see a system similiar to this, though I would do it a little differently. This is what I would do, and it could be incorporated into the current system a lot easier as well.

Once the level cap has attained it's final peak I think players should be able to do a quest that allows them to unlock a single sub job to where they can take it all the way. That would allow players to customize the mastery of their jobs similiar to what you are saying without introducing an entirely new system. This would give players a lot more individuality at the end of the game also.

So for example if a dragoon wanted to be a "dragon tamer" he could choose beastmaster as his ultimate sub job and take it all the way, thus fusing the two jobs together into it's own unique class.

This would be really cool I think, and allow all sorts of new classes to be created and would only need to fuse together the current ones - and perhaps they could add new abilities and spells only allowed to certain combinations for even more options. Paladins and White Mages for example could combine to become a Cleric or a Templar like class. Black Mages and White Mages could combine to become like FuSoYa from Final Fantasy 3, or a Ranger could combine with a White Mage to mimic Rosa. Warriors could combine with Samurai to become like your "Gladiator". Possiblities are pretty endless.

[Leatherman]

PUP should upgrade to ENG Engineer

Ability to summon/create Martelos to boost party/alliance with TP/HP/MP regen
A more in depth Automaton like those big metal monsters from ToAU.
Able to repair Martelos and what not. Different type of of Martellos such as DEF,ATK,MAB,MDB and so forth. Able to Summon 2 types or maybe max-out with Merit Points Lv3 to a total of 3 Martelos.

Another thing, these jobs would NOT be able to be selected as Support Jobs. So no worries about how would people use them as support.

[KorPoni]

Final Fantasy I had job upgrades even. White Mage - White Wizard, Black Mage - Black Wizard, Red Mage - Red Wizard, Black Belt - Master, Thief - Ninja, Fighter - Knight. I know this can't change exactly like this, as thief and ninja are seperate jobs now, but this is pretty much how it happened. They introduced higher stats, ninja gained use of black magic like drk and knight gained use of white magic like pld. Also, the mages gained access to more spells themselves upon upgrading.