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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smush View Post
    Yeah that part is a lot but the 90 ukko or coin weapon is not imo, i just think to get that strong you should need both 99.
    If you have done the work to make a Mythic in the first place you have earned that power either way, at that point making an Ukon to 99 just for the WS would be a stupid but simple requirement.
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    Making a 99 Ukon wouldn't be trivial (about 1/3 as hard as a Mythic?) but making a 99 WoE would be a walk in the park. AFK/kill some lotto NMs and then collect like 3mil of drops? Okay...

    Making a WoE weapon (now that the drops are buyable) is much easier than making a 90 Ukon. It would probably take me a week of casually checking bazaars while I do other things to collect all the items I need for a 99 WoE Ukon. Apart from how long it would take of actually playing to get the drops to take Ukon to 90 (or even 85), you can convert the drops themselves into gil (people still pay like 200k each) and realize that it's a much more substantial advantage than making a WoE weapon. That's why I'd recommend unlocking the WS for anyone with a 90-99 Ukon.
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  3. #123
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    FYI to smush if you don't already have these weapons done your probably not going to get them done period now. From what I saw yesterday of checking dyna and looking around in bazaars no one is doing it. VW is simply dead basically no plates or dross etc. being sold at all and no shouts as well not a healthy sign of older content and lolmythic we're not even going to bring that craziness up.

    I mean everyone is just doing
    1. delve
    2. other things in SoA since the weps more or less outclass everything right now.

    I'm currently trying to figure out what to do with myself in the game (since I have to be more casual nowadays) right now since they more or less killed all events off except delve and anything SoA related this is a huge problem that needs fixing as stated with my first post.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilpalazzo View Post
    FYI to smush if you don't already have these weapons done your probably not going to get them done period now. From what I saw yesterday of checking dyna and looking around in bazaars no one is doing it. VW is simply dead basically no plates or dross etc. being sold at all and no shouts as well not a healthy sign of older content and lolmythic we're not even going to bring that craziness up.

    I mean everyone is just doing
    1. delve
    2. other things in SoA since the weps more or less outclass everything right now.

    I'm currently trying to figure out what to do with myself in the game (since I have to be more casual nowadays) right now since they more or less killed all events off except delve and anything SoA related this is a huge problem that needs fixing as stated with my first post.
    That is true as of right now, but i think if the weapons come back strong then dyna will come back and VW for plates and such but no way to be sure.
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  5. #125
    Player Kajikuro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Afterglow versions are 99 +1, which is a finished product.
    The 99 version without afterglow is also a finished product.
    Your first and second sentences are a contradiction of themselves, and the fact you are implying that the same thing, at different stages in its production, is finished definitively proves that you don't grasp the words meaning. By stating that there is a "+1" version of something means exactly that it is NOT finished, regardless of weather or not its holds any tangible value it is still not finished. Therefor it cannot be implied that it is.

    And just to clarify, I am not saying that i believe the weapons should have to be afterglow to receive the enhancement. No a this point i'm simply saying that those who feign completion in an attempt of self aggrandizement are still not finished, even though they may bolster themselves as such.

    And to anyone that has a 99 RME that isn't afterglow, i mean no offence. Congratulations! I am plainly attempting to reprimand those who have wrongly enthroned themselves with an achievement they haven't accomplished.
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    My El camino is a finished product.

    My El Camino that i've added spoilers and spinning rims and a turbo charger to is also a finished product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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  7. #127
    Player Kajikuro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    My El camino is a finished product.

    My El Camino that i've added spoilers and spinning rims and a turbo charger to is also a finished product.
    You're using a situation with multiple variations of completion based on personal preference. This is not that situation, this situation is clearly defined, it has a beginning(the vary beginning of the process of starting any RME) and an end (99 Afterglow of that weapon) where you can only be finished to the actual extent after completing these trials in sequence to a final conclusion that has no continuations, the finish product by under these conditions is afterglow.

    What you're suggesting would be true however if they gave an option that once finished with afterglow you could pick one of three trials, each one making it so that after weapon skilling your character danced around in circles on the screen for 30 second shooting bubbles from its ears. Accept one of the trials would play Metallica's "One" in the background, the second trial would play Justin Beibers "Baby" and the last would play Garth Brook's "Something country idk ....shotgun... big truck.... blah" now if those were the circumstances then so long as there was not a trial proceeding them they would be finished

    if each of your el camino's were to be one of those last trials (equal in value yet different in personal preference) then yes your el cartruckthing is finished
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  8. #128
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajikuro View Post
    You're using a situation with multiple variations of completion based on personal preference.
    Yeah afterglow fits this description also.
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    Last edited by Raksha; 05-13-2013 at 02:15 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Yeah afterglow fists this description also.
    1. Ew

    2. No it doesn't
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  10. #130
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    TBH it's so hard to say whether or not these events will ever be done again by the more hardcore crowd since most of the gil to be made now is made with SoA upgrade items and they are already done with what they want to do they have their weapon or weapons in some cases of choice. I also have the feeling the upgrades for the new trial extension for R/M/E will be in SoA to keep them doing that content.

    Casuals are screwed regardless until more of the AH-able weapons (Razorfury etc.) come into play at a reasonable price. So it's basically back to square one in that quite a bit of older content needs adjusting for them specifically to help them along with their R/M/E of choice if they still wish to pursue them. I don't envy the devs right now with this mistake to say the least.
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