Summoner in Colonization Reives = Broken

[Malphius]

The most difficult job to earn contribution on to me is GEO, because geomancy earns no/minimal contribution. You can melee and you can nuke, which is okay, but the main thing your job is supposed to be about doesn't earn you much. WHMs really should have no trouble, the orginal concern in this thread is mostly invalid. I've thrown single target cures on SMN with other SMNs in the area using Aoe heals- there's nothing hard about it. Most reieves spam enough AoE damage that there's always somebody you can cure.

My concern isn't invalid, it happens all the time. Not every time but often enough to be discouraged in coming on a mage job.

Through out this conversation I have been told that since I can't really cure people, that I should (lol)melee or perform some other function. That by doing this I will increase my potential for more points and that they should a reasonable amount of points.

As it has been my position that BP's be party only, why is it that SMN should be excluded from taking their own suggestion? If they truly work as well as everyone has suggested then what's the problem? I think everyone here knows that it's not a very effective answer. With everyone walking around at 79/80 inventory is anyone really going to build a DD set for their mages? I'm not. I have the following sets for my mages: hMP, idle, cure, aspir, enhancing, mab and enfeebling. I don't have room for tp and ws as well. What I and most likely many others will do, is just come on their best DD job as that is far more effective.

My issue with this ability is that it places SMN and BST at a large advantage. With one move they heal everyone around them at the same time(which because of the confined space is usually everyone on one side of the wall). With 5 or 6 other mages single target curing (and SMN may also do this just as Al does) is that they all have equal opportunity to perform that function on the same ground as anyone else around them. It's up to personal skill and ability.

I understand SMN and BST not wanting to lose this ability. It's pretty awesome no doubt. Maybe another solution would be to make it target anybody playing solo. This way anyone in a standard party can still function and anyone outside a party wanting to solo could still take advantage of pet cures and SMN and BST would retain the ability.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

They're still complaining about this?

Been running smn in reives for a week now and I can tell you, I gained far less then half what I would have then if I was on drg.

[RAIST]

For the inventory challenged players concerned about regearing for melee, you may not really need a massive overhaul to increase your melee damage. As an example, for club/staff weilding jobs, you are likely already carrying and using pieces that mod your WS, so just swapping a few pieces can have a profound effect on your melee potential. One may already have a lot of those pieces if they have a DD job geared up and/or participated in the older content to a reasonable degree. Not talking about uber high gearing here....things that are fairly easy to farm/quest/buy. Items that add things like DA, Haste, StoreTP, ACC and such that are available to all jobs, readily attainable, and very likely to be stored somewhere in one of the many containers. They can easily be held in sack/satchel and swapped in/out for less important pieces as needed if your main inventory is tight. And, there is also the addition of food. You may be surprised how much a difference some foods can make.

It isn't rocket science tweaking...just a little fine tuning here and there can go a long way sometimes.

[Lithera]

Mp, he proved nothing? i don't see it.

Bah read post wrong on 1st try. He proved my point that he would continue to whine.

[Jackstin]

They're still complaining about this?

Been running smn in reives for a week now and I can tell you, I gained far less then half what I would have then if I was on drg.

DRG is fantastic in reiv....I mean....nothing to see here. Move along. No nerfing necessary.

[Malphius]

DRG is fantastic in reiv....I mean....nothing to see here. Move along. No nerfing necessary.

Dragoon doesn't affect other players. It's no wonder SE ignores the SMN community. I think i'll start to follow suit.

[Alhanelem]

DRG is fantastic in reiv....I mean....nothing to see here. Move along. No nerfing necessary.

Gotta agree with this sentiment. and the whole AHOOOOGGA AHOOOGA ALERT ALRERT SMN DOES SOMETHING USEFUL! EXECUTE NERFBAT.EXE WITH ALL DUE HASTE! thing.

[Babekeke]

With everyone walking around at 79/80 inventory is anyone really going to build a DD set for their mages? I'm not. I have the following sets for my mages: hMP, idle, cure, aspir, enhancing, mab and enfeebling. I don't have room for tp and ws as well.

So... you're already carrying an aspir set with you, which naturally includes capped haste gear, so you are already good for that for meleeing. And if you have mystic boon unlocked, or you're using staff with spirit taker, you no longer need your HMP set, or your idle set probably, unless that includes fast cast gear. Certainly don't need movement speed/auto refresh gear.

I did a reive on BRD for the first time the other day. More because there was a reive in the way of running back from Delve than planning to do a reive on BRD. I was surprised at how much bayld I got, tbh. I gave up on meleeing because I kept forgetting that every time I slept/elegy'd a mob, I'd swap to staff, and every time I needed to re-buff I'd swap back to dagger. So most of my points were from enfeeb and buffs (on the 3 of us in pt) with a couple of cure 3s, and I ended up with 925 on the final evaluation (first time I've ever seen the same exp as bayld on final eval though). Total bayld for the fight was about 2k from eyeballing.

[Malphius]

Gotta agree with this sentiment. and the whole AHOOOOGGA AHOOOGA ALERT ALRERT SMN DOES SOMETHING USEFUL! EXECUTE NERFBAT.EXE WITH ALL DUE HASTE! thing.

Dragoon has always been a good DD. Stardiver made it even better. It's typically the players that suck at DRG not DRG sucking as a job.

[Babekeke]

Dragoon has always been a good DD. Stardiver made it even better. It's typically the players that suck at DRG not DRG sucking as a job.

This is the single, best contribution that you've had to this thread lol.

P.S. is the quote in your signature correct? Should it not be "if you fool the right ones...? Or was that intended in the quote?