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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Summoner in Colonization Reives = Broken

    So I was doing Colonization Reives in Morimar Basalt Fields today. I was on WHM having a great time healing my party, buffing, doing my job, etc... when out of no where come 4 summoners and that's when things went down hill.

    Because Summoner BP's seem to have no boundaries in terms of party/alliance they are going to completely rain down epic fails on the point gains of other support class jobs. I went from 500~700 Bayld per tally to 100 if lucky because all 4 Summoners were spamming BP's. That was with my trying to spam curaga to keep up.

    BP's in Reives needs limited to party only or this is going to become PLD + SMN + DD only event.
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    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

    -Dead Prez

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    Player Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Whip out a hammer and go all hammertime?
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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Still low points.
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    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malphius View Post
    So I was doing Colonization Reives in Morimar Basalt Fields today. I was on WHM having a great time healing my party, buffing, doing my job, etc... when out of no where come 4 summoners and that's when things went down hill.

    Because Summoner BP's seem to have no boundaries in terms of party/alliance they are going to completely rain down epic fails on the point gains of other support class jobs. I went from 500~700 Bayld per tally to 100 if lucky because all 4 Summoners were spamming BP's. That was with my trying to spam curaga to keep up.

    BP's in Reives needs limited to party only or this is going to become PLD + SMN + DD only event.
    the Summoner in my alliance in Morimar said he was making insane Bayld using Garuda and whispering Wind, over 1000 points per increment, I'd say try that lol

    Even for SMNs there's like 5 ppl going SMN all competing for Whispering Wind lol
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    SMN is good at something? By Altana! Red alert! AWOOOOGAH! AWOOOGAH! This is NOT a drill! Emergency maintenance! Patch it NOW! GO GO GO! Let's move people! Let's MOVE!
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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    SMN is good at something? By Altana! Red alert! AWOOOOGAH! AWOOOGAH! This is NOT a drill! Emergency maintenance! Patch it NOW! GO GO GO! Let's move people! Let's MOVE!
    The point isn't that Summoner is good at something, it's that summoner is actively degrading the point gain for other jobs. They have an incredibly unfair and unbalanced advantage. I can't curaga all the members in an area unless they are in my party. I can't Accession all the members in an area unless they are in my party. It's quite obviously broken and I don't see how there can be much debate about it.

    Limiting SMN BP's to party only isn't going to ruin the job or the experience. It will just put them on a level playing field with everyone else.
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    Last edited by Malphius; 05-03-2013 at 02:16 AM.
    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malphius View Post
    So I was doing Colonization Reives in Morimar Basalt Fields today. I was on WHM having a great time healing my party, buffing, doing my job, etc... when out of no where come 4 summoners and that's when things went down hill.

    Because Summoner BP's seem to have no boundaries in terms of party/alliance they are going to completely rain down epic fails on the point gains of other support class jobs. I went from 500~700 Bayld per tally to 100 if lucky because all 4 Summoners were spamming BP's. That was with my trying to spam curaga to keep up.

    BP's in Reives needs limited to party only or this is going to become PLD + SMN + DD only event.
    Are you serious?

    The contributions of pets to your rieve score are minimal. You should be HAPPY you're helping everyone so much, not complaining because you think it's too good. I even read another thread not to long ago complaining at how SMN has a hard time getting a good score.

    Rieves are hardly at all a "these jobs only" event. Pretty much the worst job I guess for this is GEO, because your GEO spells earn you basically no contribution.
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    Player Malphius's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Are you serious?

    The contributions of pets to your rieve score are minimal. You should be HAPPY you're helping everyone so much, not complaining because you think it's too good. I even read another thread not to long ago complaining at how SMN has a hard time getting a good score.

    Rieves are hardly at all a "these jobs only" event. Pretty much the worst job I guess for this is GEO, because your GEO spells earn you basically no contribution.

    Read the entire thread. They are spamming Cure BP's and earning over 1k per tally for it. Someone must be doing something wrong or there wouldn't be hoards of SMN there. I'm not upset with the points they are earning. I'm upset that they are closing out any opportunity for other support class jobs to also earn points even though it may be some what less.

    As far as helping people, i'd be very happy if my contribution to Reives reflected my my Bayld score. I'm not going to these out of the goodness of my heart and neither is anyone else.

    Any mage job is capable of spamming Cure 4 (even Geomancer) for a very reasonable points return.
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    Last edited by Malphius; 05-03-2013 at 02:27 AM.
    "You can't fool all of the people all the time, but if you fool the right ones then the rest will fall in line".

    -Dead Prez

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    Player Icefall's Avatar
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    I've taken my SMN to reives before with Garuda since they updated support gains and I surely wasn't getting scores like that. Either they were misinforming you of their gains, or they were doing other things atop the blood pacts to be getting those scores. Whispering Wind is good, but not 1k per tally good.
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    Player Hayward's Avatar
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    I don't want to hear word one about SMN being overpowered. All the abuse people take leveling this job, I'm surprised S-E actually allowed SMN to actually be rewarded for doing something constructive with their avatars.
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