New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Yinnyth]

Alternatively you can skip the whole process spend an hour kiting a Delve NM around with BLMs SMNs and CORs

"2004 called - it wants its turtle back"

until it drops dead of exhaustion and not spend the 200m for RME99 and then gain access to weapons that outclass 99 RME for 4-5hours worth of content

231 damage great axe sup I am 1/10 of the way from buying you and I have done your event twice

Which is what people will do in reality land

Seriously - I know you really want the whole "stepping stone" thing the devs have fed you to work out but it's not going to work out (look at the lukewarm reception for Meebles - that was designed to be a "Stepping Stone" event) and continuing to defend it just makes you sound naive and moronic

Sorry bro - it's just not how the world works

tldr



Put it this way - "Skirmish" is now a training wheels event
Before the update JPs on my server shouted constantly for Skirmish
Since the update - all silent on the Skirmish front

Because seriously - why would anyone bother with 10+m entry fees on Skirmish for "training weapons"

Oh, how hard was it to get your delve weapons? Please go on.

I just finished getting my last one last night, and now I'm done with delve and I won the game.

edit: that's sarcasm, I'm sorry again. What I'm trying to say is you're judgining a book by its cover. You have yet to immerse yourself in it, yet you judge it. To be fair, I am no better. I am also judging it. But there are several people here who say they will no longer fund the project I love because they're scared of the direction it's taking without fully comprehending it. Rubbish.

[bryangelos]

Do you bemoan the fact that AF1 weapons are no longer worthwhile ways to spend your time? Does the fact that Joyeuse doesn't hold as much sway as it used to upset you? These are once useful items consumed by the unending flow of time. The game is heading a new direction. I'm sorry you won't be here to see it. Change is frightening, but one does not jump out a 10th-story window when someone claims that one of the fire alarms has triggered on the ground level.

And any true person who loves this game will continue to pay. If you don't pay, there will be no change, there will be only death. So thank you for hastening that demise by ceasing to fund this project, then lingering around as long as you can on these forums letting the rest of us know to abandon ship. I apologize. I am being unfair. Good luck to you in your future endeavors. Please leave me and everyone else who still enjoys and funds this game in peace.

You still fail to see the point, enjoy delve because doing anything else is a waste of time. The event is easy, kill 1 NM farm items and bam you have your new super gear. You can stop pretending like old content is a stepping stone, and yes you bring up childish arguments like joytoy, but prior to SOA was there only 1 event worth doing? i myself was doing dynamis/legion/limbus/ein/ADL/sky farming for money/salv v1/v2.

And doesn't it upset you that delve weapons are the ONLY weapons worth getting almost? prior to delve you still had people getting lots of other weapons. I mean sure joytoy was replaced with magian weapons, but lets take a look at that time era. My joytoy isn't as good so i can do magian, i can make a emp/relic/mythic, i can do abyssea for other rare/ex weapons off nms, i can go to the ah and buy a weapon which would be better as well. Jump to 2013 right now and hmmm outside of delve weapons i'm hard pressed to think of where i can go to get weapons that keep up with them any ideas for me?

[Triffle]

Oh, how hard was it to get your delve weapons? Please go on.

I just finished getting my last one last night, and now I'm done with delve and I won the game.

edit: that's sarcasm, I'm sorry agian. What I'm trying to say is you're judgining a book by its cover. You have yet to immerse yourself in it, yet you judge it. To be fair, I am no better. I am also judging it. But there are several people here who say they will no longer fund the project I love because they're scared of the direction it's taking without fully comprehending it. Rubbish.

It's not hard to get the content, the only thing that you'll want to go further in Delve is for augments and maybe crafting mats for the AH weapons.

[Yinnyth]

You can stop pretending like old content is a stepping stone, and yes you bring up childish arguments like joytoy

Sir, what have I done to offend you so? Why do you dismiss my arguments as childish? What do you think of a person who compares your intelligence to that of a child?

You have already made your decision and there is nothing I can do about it besides berate you because I wish for people to still see the good in this game I enjoy. You linger like a cancer. Not content to die off and leave its host body yourself, you wish to kill off other subscribers.

Can you not see why I would be so defensive against persons like yourself? Think of something you've enjoyed for the past 8 years. Now imagine that I've also enjoyed it for the past 8 years. Now imagine I no longer enjoy it even though you still do. Now imagine I'm talking smack about that thing you still enjoy, yet I no longer take part in.

[Richwood]

Alternatively you can skip the whole process spend an hour kiting a Delve NM around with BLMs SMNs and CORs

"2004 called - it wants its turtle back"

until it drops dead of exhaustion and not spend the 200m for RME99 and then gain access to weapons that outclass 99 RME for 4-5hours worth of content

231 damage great axe sup I am 1/10 of the way from buying you and I have done your event twice

Which is what people will do in reality land

Seriously - I know you really want the whole "stepping stone" thing the devs have fed you to work out but it's not going to work out (look at the lukewarm reception for Meebles - that was designed to be a "Stepping Stone" event) and continuing to defend it just makes you sound naive and moronic

Sorry bro - it's just not how the world works

tldr



Put it this way - "Skirmish" is now a training wheels event
Before the update JPs on my server shouted constantly for Skirmish
Since the update - all silent on the Skirmish front

Because seriously - why would anyone bother with 10+m entry fees on Skirmish for "training weapons"

Good to see Sylow from Fenrir is not just an butt-nugget on ffxiah forums but here as well. yes the old content is a semi stepping stone. as in order for people to get the wins in higher content they wont do it in crap gear for most part. But all I see happening is a bunch of players (nubs) who do not want to waste that time and effort in older content paying mercs to take them and and get the titles. The game is just becoming turn and burn content, there is no way around it. even if they do update REMs which I hope they do soon, what is the point? Once gear starts to become way above and beyond any current content in the game, example in some Cor kiting a damn turtle around for 3 hours. Unless Se plans to revamp all that we know with this new expansion I just do not see where it is going.

[bryangelos]

Sir, what have I done to offend you so? Why do you dismiss my arguments as childish? What do you think of a person who compares your intelligence to that of a child?

You have already made your decision and there is nothing I can do about it besides berate you because I wish for people to still see the good in this game I enjoy. You linger like a cancer. Not content to die off and leave its host body yourself, you wish to kill off other subscribers.

Can you not see why I would be so defensive against persons like yourself? Think of something you've enjoyed for the past 8 years. Now imagine that I've also enjoyed it for the past 8 years. Now imagine I no longer enjoy it even though you still do. Now imagine I'm talking smack about that thing you still enjoy, yet I no longer take part in.

So what your saying is your happiness is more important then mine? If you go back and re read my posts you will see i said i canceled my account and will not return if they continue to go down this path. I enjoyed the fact i had lots of content to do and that kept me busy and happy, i'm not happy with how the game is doing now.

I'm sorry if i'm not thinking of how this effects you and the game YOU enjoy. Also last i checked this was the only place i could tell the dev team how i feel about the direction the game is going.

[Yinnyth]

Good to see Sylow from Fenrir is not just an butt-nugget on ffxiah forums but here as well. yes the old content is a semi stepping stone.

These personal attacks do very little to further a good cause. Although I agree with your overall message, I must state my displeasure with your personal attack on my behalf (though I doubt that's what drove you to it, I still feel responsible.)

[Yinnyth]

So what your saying is your happiness is more important then mine? If you go back and re read my posts you will see i said i canceled my account and will not return if they continue to go down this path. I enjoyed the fact i had lots of content to do and that kept me busy and happy, i'm not happy with how the game is doing now.

I'm sorry if i'm not thinking of how this effects you and the game YOU enjoy.

Like I said: You've made your decision, and there is nothing I can do to change it. But do you tableflip a Monopoly game, then stick around to harass the people who are still trying to play it? Let us have our fun. You've already left.

Edit: But I'll give you a $500 bill and my deed to Park Place if you want back in and agree to behave yourself.

[Richwood]

These personal attacks do very little to further a good cause. Although I agree with your overall message, I must state my displeasure with your personal attack on my behalf (though I doubt that's what drove you to it, I still feel responsible.)

I apologize and admire your attitude. For myself I am just a little rough around the edges and do not mind kicking and biting, lo. (*^.^*)

[Yinnyth]

I apologize and admire your attitude. For myself I am just a little rough around the edges and do not mind kicking and biting, lo. (*^.^*)

I must admit, I find it hard to maintain a demeanor such as this, but for FFXI's sake, I do my best. I am always glad to have others on the same side of the argument as myself though.